Turning Your Podcast Mistakes into Happy Accidents That Help You Grow – PCI 439

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Welcome to Podcast Insider. I'm Mackenzie Bennett, marketing

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specialist at Blueberry.

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And I'm Mike Dell, the VP of customer

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relations here at Blueberry.

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Have you ever had one of those podcast

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moments where everything just goes off the rails?

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Like now? Yeah. We've all been there.

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Technical glitches, awkward pauses,

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even uploading the wrong file.

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But there is good news. Those mistakes can

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actually help you become a better podcaster.

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And today, we're talking about how to turn

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your podcasting

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slip ups into a surprising

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opportunity for growth.

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at Woodbury Podcasting. Welcome. Let's dive in.

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Okay. So there are mess ups. There are

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problems. You laugh at them. Literally, when Mike

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said, okay. Get started. I was like, no,

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Mike. You're starting this. No. It was me.

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We're already off to a great start.

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Yeah. You know? And that's that's why we

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do things called editing.

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Yeah.

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But you could take a lot of these

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things

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and

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turn them into fun things. You know? Sometimes

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leave some of the warts in there as,

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Adam Curio used to tell me. He says,

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send it, warts and all. You know?

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I I think,

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yeah. It's one of those things maybe you

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should just kinda

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collect

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the parts that you're editing out that at

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least you found funny and put them in

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a different folder.

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You know, don't just delete them

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as a whole, but just clip them and

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send them elsewhere. And then at the end

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of the year, you're like, okay. Here's the

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blooper reel that we all enjoy for TV

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shows and movies and everything. Do the same

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for your podcast.

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Exactly. You know, and stuff happens. You know,

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there's stuff that, you know, say you get

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halfway through an interview and you forgot to

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hit record. Well, okay. That's not gonna help

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you any, but,

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you know,

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but things like that

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are technical in nature in most cases or

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just plain forgetting stuff, but,

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you know, you can get away with it

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once. Well, I mean, you know, we went

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through all kinds of tech stuff on this

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show, and sometimes even if the audio was

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kinda crappy,

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we sent it anyway and just explained, hey.

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Sorry. It's crappy, but that's what we got.

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You push forward.

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Yeah. Because, you know, if you spend all

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your time worrying about being perfect, you're gonna

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spend a whole lot more time doing your

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podcast. You're less likely to enjoy it.

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Yeah. That's for sure. So

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common mistakes just in general. Mhmm. Technical,

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editing,

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content, it content itself,

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or even your guest. Yeah. Otherwise, like, it's

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it's gonna happen.

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Yeah. I mean, it it does happen and,

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you know, sometimes you over edit. You know,

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I've done that before. So always keep your

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original recording because you can always go back.

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Yep. But, you know, don't over edit stuff

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or say you cut out a section that

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you wanted to keep

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accidentally and then when you're listening through it

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and always listen through your show after you're

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done recording it and after it's edited

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just to make sure.

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But,

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you know, there's just all kinds of, of

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common mistakes. As Mackenzie said, you know, another

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one is just getting on a ramble. You

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know, we do that here sometimes.

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Sometimes it's good. Sometimes it's not so good.

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Well, it is kinda one of the things

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that we're talking about is, like, how these

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can be good.

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Those rambles are

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authentic.

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They're not maybe the best content sometimes, but

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that's how you're getting to your thought.

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Mhmm.

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You know? And then

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and, you know, there's just stuff that happens,

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and, you know, we're human.

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You know, most podcasters are not going for

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that polished radio sound.

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They're going for authentic. And, you know, with

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all this AI voice technology and stuff coming

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up, sometimes it's really hard to tell whether

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this is an AI or not. Well, if

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you mess up something, well, chances are it's

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not an AI.

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That is true. That is true. It just

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proves that you're

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authentic.

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One of the things is, like, turning it

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into a learning opportunity.

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I,

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early, early days, was recording with a guest

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who

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it was just not going well in general.

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Coordination with us wasn't working. Equipment was against

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us. And then at the you know, we're

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halfway through this

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interview.

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And I look, I'm not even recording it.

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And I just kinda took that as a

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sign of, okay. I'm gonna do a rerun

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this week and just scrap this entire thing.

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I don't like him. He doesn't like me.

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This is not working.

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Yeah. I've had to bail on some, interviews

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before too. It's like, nah. This isn't working.

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you have to just realize, okay. This is

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that's fine. You know, I'm I'm gonna learn

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from this. I'm gonna change something else. You

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don't necessarily need to make

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every everything work each and every time.

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Right. But, you know,

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in our, notes here so we'll go back

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to that. You know, a little behind the

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scenes here. But, it says it us authenticity

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as we talked about before. You know, listeners

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love real moments. They feel more connected when

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you're

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doing human things like screwing things up.

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unexpected

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content,

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you know, mistakes or going off on a

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tangent

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or going off on a completely different subject.

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That happens. And sometimes you can repurpose that

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into bonuses

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or,

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you know, blooper reels

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or or just, okay. We're gonna retitle this

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episode because we ended up talking about the

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wrong thing. Yeah.

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Or something. You know? One of the best

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things that people can do when they're interviewing

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someone is actually just listen

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and go where the conversation takes you instead

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of sticking to exactly what is, you know,

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the list of questions that they have, whether

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that's that they made up or from a

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producer

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or, you know, just, you know, AI, whatever

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it is,

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actually participate in the conversation actively

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and and keep going. Speaking of recording, am

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I recording? No. I am.

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Pretty sure.

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Okay. But I need to move my cable.

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Speaking of authentic moments

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Mhmm. You know, every little error that you

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have is going to teach you something, you

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know, about your equipment, your process,

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maybe your audience,

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the guests, you know, your cohosts, whatever.

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You know? Like, I I've learned that,

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trusting a RodeCaster

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Pro Duo,

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on this particular Mac is not a good

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idea. So Questionable. Backups. I have backups.

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You know? Yes. I have a different audio

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interface because,

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you know, certain things just don't work together

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sometimes,

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and that's fine.

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You know, it's a great piece of kit,

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but if it doesn't work with your setup,

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change it or learn about it. Figure out

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how to make it, right.

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I like the idea of there's,

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you know, like, keeping a list

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of your

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your your flubs, I guess, and turning it

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into this is our lessons learned.

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Because a lot of stuff

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you'll move forward with, but not necessarily

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think of, like, what happened

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individually

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each time that kinda led you to this

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idea.

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But also at the same time, like, if

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you write all these down, then you can

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come to a conclusion later of, oh, okay.

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This was my problem. This is how this

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was happening. This is what I didn't like.

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I don't know. I think sometimes that visual

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for people and, you know, they're the typing

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versus the writing too sometimes going back to,

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you know, teachers saying, like, you have to

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take notes. If you're typing, it's probably it's

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not gonna work the same in your brain.

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Yeah. That type of stuff.

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Except for when I write notes, nobody can

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read them including me.

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Yes. I have to type them.

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See? That was something that,

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you reflected on and figured out.

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Yeah. Exactly. And, you know, another thing is,

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you know, practice your improv,

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you know, your ability to just roll with

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things and, you know, and keep them in

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there. Don't edit them out sometimes. You know?

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Sometimes they're they're good in the in the

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show. Now if you're live, well, it just

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goes out. But, you know, one thing we

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have in podcasting that a lot of other

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media doesn't have is the ability to

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completely edit

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or rerecord

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or re you know, to fix the mistakes,

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but you don't wanna always be doing that.

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So leave some of that stuff in there.

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There's, there's a podcast that has gotten

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pretty popular that I don't actually listen to.

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I'm just gonna be honest.

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But they show up on my social all

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the time. So I do, like, keep on

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keep track with them

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that way. And the majority of what I

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see is, like, the

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mistakes.

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It's when, you know, they're arguing and it

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turns into a whole bit, and they're like,

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this is ridiculous, and now it's funny.

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that's exact but that is a big part

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of why their show has gotten so popular

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is because they just have that banter back

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and forth

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and and all of the, like, the the

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mistakes are the show.

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Right. For sure. And, I think I know

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the show you're talking about.

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Probably.

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But, you know, here's another thing. You know,

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kinda shift your your mindset away from perfection

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and, you know, just know that you're making

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progress. You know, as you as a new

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podcaster, you're not gonna be as good as

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you are two years down the road,

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and you're gonna be making progress. So,

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you know, start thinking about it that way.

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You know? Every mistake you make and correct,

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you know, later on

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is good. And leaving again, I I keep

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going back to this. Leave some of that

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stuff in there for authentic you know, us

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okay.

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See, there's one of them right there. I

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can't Authenticity.

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There we go. I couldn't figure that one

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out for some reason.

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But, anyway,

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you know, the the old saying back when

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podcasting

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started was,

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you know, you get

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paralyzed by

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you know, so you don't do anything because

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you're trying to be perfect. So you don't

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go forward.

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There was a better way of saying that,

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but I can't remember it right now. That's

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alright.

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You're getting

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decision paralysis over trying to figure out how

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to say this. Yeah. Exactly. So

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one of the things that you see a

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lot on social media is these quote, unquote

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influencers. They started out as normal everyday people

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showing their lives, showing their

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you know, exercise, their makeup routine,

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their,

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you know, your air their airplanes,

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whatever it is. And then they make all

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this money. They get a huge, huge following,

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and then they are not relatable anymore, and

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then people don't care.

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Yep.

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It happens it happens so fast.

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Yep. And, you know, that's not necessarily a

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mistake, but, you know, people change over time.

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Yeah. And, you know, but the listeners

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most often

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prefer the host

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and their personality

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over all the the hype.

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Yeah.

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You know, it's,

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it's one of those things. You know, I

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listen to I have a particular

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podcaster that I listen to that I could

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care less about one of his shows.

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Mhmm. You know, the the subject of one

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of his shows. One of his shows, I

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really like. One of them, I don't care

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about the topic, but I still listen to

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the show

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because I like him. Yep. You know, I

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like you know, he just has a way

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of speaking, and I'm learning about this other

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subject, which I have no interest in really.

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It's one of them is an airplane one

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and one of them is a sailing.

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Yep. And and they're they're the same guy,

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and I listened to his airplane stuff. I

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started listening to the sailing stuff just because

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he doesn't do enough airplane stuff.

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You're like, I still wanna listen, but, okay.

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I guess I'll just listen to whatever. Yeah.

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He's also pretty big on YouTube, but

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but Yeah. Different thing. One of the things

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that you can do to just kinda ease

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your mind, here are some tips for minimizing

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the impact of these mistakes that are inevitably

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going to happen. Number one, redundancy.

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Mike, you already said it. We are recording

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in two different places right now. Yeah. We

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we,

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touched on that one because I've gotten burned

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too many times.

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So we do multiple

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ways of recording. When Todd's on here, I

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think there's three. Because he also hits record

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on his end. So Yeah.

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We did just a quick two second sound

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check before we did this. I mean, we

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we've been doing this for how many years,

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and we do it, like, once a week

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or so. And we still will do a

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sound check. We always do a check. And

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then, you know,

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the thing is we got this down to

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a science. Yeah. Right? We're not perfect. Believe

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me. We'll have screwy audio sometimes, but Kate

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does her best to make us sound smart.

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So that's good. Thanks, Kate.

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We appreciate it. And something we do here

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is we always prep an outline. So you'll

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hear me reference, oh, back to our notes

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and, you know, and that'll give me an

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idea to start talking again. But we don't

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write it out as a script.

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Absolutely not. We would do a terrible job

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of that. Yeah. I'm tear I'm terrible to,

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you know, reading and talking at the same

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time. Yeah. And I even improvise when I

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do have a written line. I'll improvise the

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line because it's like, I don't say it

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that way. Yeah.

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We we see what it is, and we

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just say whatever is comfortable.

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You know? That's that's how it works.

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And then following that,

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we'll try to do

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like, whenever we were changing how this podcast

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insider worked a couple years ago, we were

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going from doing multiple news segments

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probably with a guest interview as well every

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episode to just, here's one topic, and we're

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gonna really get into this topic, but we're

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gonna, like, we're gonna break it up into

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smaller segments. You know? That's why we go

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from, like, here's talking about this to now

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we're wrapping it up. Here are the tips

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of what you can do,

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overall for this. So it just it's easier

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for your head too, I think. Yeah. Oh,

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yeah. For sure. And, like, I think next

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week, I'm gonna have our podcaster of the

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month,

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or maybe the week after for

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May.

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Yeah. We'll be doing a an interview with

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her. We're gonna still do our regular show.

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We'll attack that on the end, but it's

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recorded

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separately.

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Not, you know, we don't have her on

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halfway through the show, whatever,

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stuff like that. So, you know, recording segments

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and, you know, if that makes it easier

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for you.

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Yeah. And then last but not least, we

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kinda do this as, like,

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postproduction review process.

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AKA, that is

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I will

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publish

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the episode after you've listened to it. You've

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cut it up a tiny bit, handed it

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off to Kate. Yeah. And then, you know,

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we kinda have, like, a debrief

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generally at the end of every recording that

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we have where we're like, okay. That went

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really well. We should mention this in the

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show notes or, you know, maybe we can

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have Kate cut that because it just didn't

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go over well.

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All of that goes into this and just

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makes you have a better

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clear head when you're publishing and getting things

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out there, and you're like, okay. I feel

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good about this.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody's perfect. You know, halfway

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through, you know, I I'll wanna say something

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and can't think of it. You know, all

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that stuff.

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Well,

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you can look at that as part of

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your learning curve. You know, you know, what

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things you have trouble with or what technical

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issues, you know, all of that stuff.

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You just wanna make sure that you

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you improve on that, you know, if you

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wanna improve. Sometimes it's just, you know, the

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the mistakes are the fun part.

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You know?

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I listen to a particular show where the

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two guys are always, you know, going off

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on tangents and, you know, not saying something

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right and and and it it becomes part

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of the show.

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Mhmm. You know, like or Todd, for instance,

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on his Geek News Central. His his audience

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has a thing

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they call Toddisms.

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When he completely butchers a name or or

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uses the wrong wrong word for something, you

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know, they call those Toddisms, and he gets

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those in comments all the time, and it's

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kind of a thing on his show.

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Your personality kind of is the show. Yeah.

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Especially if you're doing

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this, like, as your own hobby. You know?

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A lot of the time, if you're listening

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to only

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super professionally produced shows, that's not coming from

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one person. One person is generally not able

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to make it sound that crafted.

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You know, there's a reason why coming from

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the daily or whatever, it sounds like that.

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And it's because they have six people working

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on this. Yeah. They have doing this and

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then three other people yeah. There's a whole

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staff.

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Yeah. We we we don't have a staff.

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We are the staff.

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We we are the we are the staff.

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We have we have help and Kate, but

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she is part of, you know, this Part

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of the team. Very small team. Yeah.

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And and that's a that's a good thing

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for this particular show. You know? Now if

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you're going for a highly produced thing, well,

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yeah.

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That that that's when you get the team

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involved and you do,

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you know, high production values and all that.

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We have pretty okay production values. That's

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not what I'm saying.

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What I'm saying is, you know, things don't

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have to be as polished

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as some people might think.

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So you still get your point across, have

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fun,

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whatever your goal for your podcast is. You

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know, mistakes are not the end of the

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world. Yeah. Mistakes are mistakes are okay. You're

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not, you know, good morning America. You don't

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have to you don't have to sound like

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it.

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Yep. For sure.

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Well, I think we,

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beat that one to death. So,

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just say, thanks for listening to Podcast Insider.

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We'll have full show notes over at podcastinsider.com.

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Thanks, everyone.

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