Rerun Episode: Do You Need a Website for Your Podcast? – PCI

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Welcome to this episode of Podcast Insider. I'm

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Mike Dell, the VP of customer relations here

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at Blueberry.

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And I'm Todd Cochran, CEO and founder of

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Blueberry Podcasting. Today,

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we're gonna talk about something very close to

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my heart. It's about podcast websites and what

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you need to do in 2024.

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You're listening to Podcast Insider hosted by Mike

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Dell, Todd Cochran, and Mackenzie Bennett from the

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Blueberry team,

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bringing you weekly insights, advice, and insider tips

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and tricks to help you start, grow, and

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thrive through podcasting,

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all with the support of your team here

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at Blueberry Podcasting.

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Welcome. Let's dive in.

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You guys covered this on the new media

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show, so we figured this would be a

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good opportunity to, break it down a little

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bit.

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Yeah. You know, it's it's one of those

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situations

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where

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we're starting to learn

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a lot more about

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podcasters.

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And, for those of you listening, yes, we're

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talking to you.

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And it really depends on where you are

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in your journey and what type of,

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customer you are.

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So I'm just going to use a couple

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of scenarios here to talk initially

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about

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what we're seeing, and then we'll talk about

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the benefits and some other stuff.

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The

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those of you that are

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churches, business

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owners,

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essentially anyone that already has an established website,

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we see from the get go that that

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really 95%

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of you that have an established

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presence on the web already are and especially

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if you're on WordPress are immediately using PowerPress

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and or

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you're publishing back to your your website if

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it isn't WordPress

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through our dashboard. Basically, you're taking the embeds

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and and everything. You're just taking it back

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to your website. And,

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that is,

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again, about 95%

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of you that already have,

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our brand website, doctor, dentist, whatever it may

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be.

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So you already understand the value

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of having

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a dot com and building your brand. Whereas

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someone brand new

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that's coming in,

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many times they don't even care

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about a website whatsoever. They don't care about

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a landing page.

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All they care about is getting their show

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onto

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Spotify and Apple Podcasts and having that distribution.

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And when they're doing their show, they don't

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even mention a website. They don't say go

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over to,

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such and such.com

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or such

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to such and such,

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landing page.

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as shows mature,

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then what we start finding is number one,

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they say, oh, yeah. I definitely need a

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landing page. I need to have a place

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to send people. And then number two

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is, yes. I need a landing page, but

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I want it to be my own website

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where I can sell merch and I can

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do have it, you know, collect

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the emails for a mailing list and so

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forth. So, really, this kinda transition happens in

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the season you are

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as a podcaster. So

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we know creating a website for podcast really

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offers several

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benefits

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and serves multiple purposes.

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And, of course, enhancing the podcast's reach and

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engagement and overall success

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is what a website is designed to do.

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And, of course, at Blueberry, our DNA is

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built upon building a brand on our own

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.coms, and we highly,

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highly recommend a website. Right.

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But, again, maybe you're not ready for it.

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Mike, go ahead. Yeah. Both both of us

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started out as bloggers

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and, you know, we were playing around on

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the web before podcasting even existed. And, you

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know, so that's kind of baked into

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how how we deal with this. But, you

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know, a lot of these new people that

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are new to podcasting,

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social media is their moon base alpha, not

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their own website at first. And then, you

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know, later on as they, you know, get

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success and build an audience and all that,

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there is a reason to have

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a landing page for your show.

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everything from,

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you know, just a simple landing page all

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the way up to, you know, a full

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blown website that does a whole lot of

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other things.

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But, yeah, there's a there's a ton of

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reasons to to have a website for your

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podcast.

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You know, and if you're at that stage

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you're just promoting on social media and wanting

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people to subscribe

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or follow you depending on where you're sending

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them, whether it be Spotify, Apple, or one

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of the other 100 different places where podcasts

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are consumed,

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that's great. And the best part about being

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a podcaster is there's no rules. You do

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you. You you you build the way you

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wanna build.

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But I will go back and really say

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that there are some central themes

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about having your own website that you may

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not have thought of.

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SEO,

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branding,

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engagement with your audience, monetization,

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analytics being web analytics.

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Again, a place to put your podcast player,

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episode archives, show notes, contact info, announcements, merch

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store.

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And those are really some of the high

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level.

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it's beneficial

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to have a website. Then on the opposite

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side, there are some reasons why you may

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not want a website. We'll talk about that.

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But let's talk about the pros first,

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on why. And, Mike, you you you said

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my favorite word, moon base alpha, and people

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are kinda like, what is moon base alpha?

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you know, if we had a base on

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the moon,

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it would probably be called Moonbase Alpha. And,

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that's where people would live and their life

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would be,

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would revolve around it. Whereas my website is

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my Moonbase Alpha. It's where everything from my

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show originates

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and then is distributed and syndicated out into

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the podcast ecosphere,

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including all those pay places podcasts are consumed,

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Apple, Spotify, etcetera, etcetera.

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So, again, a central hub for your show.

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always been SEO. Can I win the SEO

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search game

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for not my just my show, but for

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the episode? Can I have my episode rank

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very very high? So SEO is another big

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of having your own website, and it's gonna

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become more important as more parties are now

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pulling data off the web. You traditionally think

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about Microsoft and, Google and those major search

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engines,

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But the large language models like Anthropic and,

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OpenAI are also pulling stuff off the web.

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So if you have rich show notes

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and rich descriptions,

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you then become the authority, not only for

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Google and for Microsoft, but also for

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Anthropic and for, you know, all these services

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out there that are building up history. So

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I think it's gonna be more important than

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for you to have a website with this

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rich rich metadata that, is being able to

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be put on websites. You know, the prime

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example,

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of using our our podcast AI assistant production

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tool and having rich, rich show notes compared

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to what we may have had a year

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ago. Mike, what's some of the other reasons,

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for having a podcast website? Yeah. One of

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the the great things is branding. You know,

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a lot of,

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companies and podcasters and organizations

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and all that have a specific, you know,

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color palette,

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all this stuff. And then it's it may

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seem

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a little vain to to worry about that,

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but, some sometimes,

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you know, having your brand be consistent throughout

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all of your, you know, social media and

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all that, but, you know, adding the website

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to it,

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definitely gives you complete control over your branding

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on that website.

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Having, you know, say, a forum or a

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contact form, an email list sign up, or

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and all this kind of stuff gives your

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listeners a place to interact with you. You

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know, they know, okay. I'm listening on Spotify,

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but there's no real way to contact you

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through Spotify. So they know if you tell

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them in the show, hey. Go to my

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blah blah blah.com and, you know, do this,

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do that. It it gives you a place

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to send them to,

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engage

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with you,

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which, you know, a lot of podcasters, you

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know, they think they're talking into the ether

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and, you know, getting engagement is a real

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motivator for a lot of podcasters.

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This is a a a really good way

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to do that. Of course, monetization,

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your own site gives you a place to

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promote your sponsors, sell merch,

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or your own consulting services if that's, you

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know, or maybe your dentist or a lawyer

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or whatever it may be.

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you can run AdSense ads as well if

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you wanna do that. Sure. You know, a

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lot of people you can a lot of

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people that make money in podcasting aren't making

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money for talking on the mic. They're making

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money with their service or their business or

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or whatever. So that's, you know, good good

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way to do that.

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One thing that I do is I add

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extra content. I have writers that put out

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blog posts, on a regular basis each month,

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and it just keeps kind of feeding that,

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that machine out there that is, sucking data

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in and and building,

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rich historical information on a website. Also, you

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can set up Google Linux or another web

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analytics system and get some more information about

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how your listeners and web visitors use your

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site. You know, one of the statistics I'm

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proud of on my personal site is the

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amount of time people stay once they come

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on the website.

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And, you know, if you're seeing people leave

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after three seconds, that's a bad thing. But

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if they're staying for two or three minutes,

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that's gold. That means they've kind of peeked

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around for a little bit, read a few

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articles, and and then left. And you get

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enough of those two or three minute hang

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ons. It makes for a big difference in

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in, basically, Google saying this site

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has authority and it drives you more traffic.

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Yeah. Of course Yeah. Nice thing,

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you know, a nice thing about, you know,

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doing the extra content and doing the web

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analytics

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is,

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you know, say you have an article that

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shows up that's not a podcast episode. You

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have an article that shows up in somebody's

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search. They come to your site. They read

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the article, and then they poke around a

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little bit, and they say, hey. There's a

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podcast here.

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So you get, you know, some podcast listeners

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that way and vice versa. Your podcaster, you

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know, listeners

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say, you know, hey. Let's go to the

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site and, check out, you know, what what

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the site's about. And then, hey. It's writing

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other articles that are of the same,

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you know,

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genre. And, you know, that is a a

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great way to kinda double up on, on

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your viewers and or listeners.

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And, again, some of the very basic stuff

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that doesn't need much explanation is you got

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your podcast player for your episode.

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You have an episode archives from previous episodes

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or a playlist player that can have as

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many episodes

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within a limit on your on a page,

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expanded show notes, your contact information,

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special announcements about stuff that's going on. I

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make an announcement. I'm going live and have

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that schedule up there through one of our

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widgets.

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You could have a merch store associated with

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it, of course, ads and so forth.

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But that kinda brings us to the next

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topic. Why

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may you not want a website?

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And,

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there is a list of, you know, perfectly

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good reasons, and we know many of you

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don't have a website. Maybe you fall into

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some of these categories.

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But you know what? I think probably the

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biggest one on this list is, Mike.

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Yep. I know. Short short on time. We're

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scared of maintaining one.

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You know, website

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maintenance

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can take some time, effort, or you have

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to hire somebody, and then the cost goes

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up. So,

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you know, you've got a way whether or

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not you want to get into that learning

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curve

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to maintain a website. Now, of course, here

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at Blueberry, we give you a WordPress site

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that we maintain for you, not the not

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the content,

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but the

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the structure of it and all that. So

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that that may save you some time, and

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it's free with hosting.

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So the cost isn't too bad. But, Yeah.

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We back it up. We have we maintain

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the plug ins. So a lot of that

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little administrative stuff that I do on my

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personal website

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is done automatically for you by having the,

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the one provided by the team here at

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Blueberry.

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Right. You know? And also, you know, technical

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skills. Again, you know, not everybody's cut out

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to build a website. You know? It's not

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so hard and, you know, a little learning,

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it's not hard to do, but, you know,

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not everyone wants to mess with that. You

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know? When we built PowerPress sites or now

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Blueberry

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WordPress sites,

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the the goal of it was we wanna

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build a WordPress site for people who don't

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wanna mess with WordPress.

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So, you know, you put the content in

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and, you know, make it look pretty

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and call it good.

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But, and another thing that people,

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you know, balk at sometimes is the cost.

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You know, domains are still fairly cheap,

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but, you know, you have to pay for

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those. If you're not gonna be using some,

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you know, free or included website,

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you know, web hosting,

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that's, you know, another bill, you know, and

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that's similar in cost to, podcast hosting.

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So, you know, that that can be,

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you know, something that'll put people off. You

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know? And if you gotta hire someone, again,

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there's a a lot of cost involved with

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that.

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You know, I always giggle too because,

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you know, the cost of hosting here at

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Blueberry is very inexpensive

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as compared to all the add ons people

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need.

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You know? And, there's some popular sites out

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there that people are using

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to automatically build their website, which,

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you know, they're they cost twice or three

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times as much as our hosting plans,

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yet you are still considered a syndication site

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because it's being built with an RSS feed.

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It's not a true origin point for the

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content.

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So in it looks like you have a

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website, but you really have a syndicated

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a syndicated site. So,

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sometimes

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going with those real easy routes to create

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a website

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can have a negative impact on search results.

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But

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the best part here is if you want

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true origin of content,

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Blueberry will give you that and give you

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a website with the podcast hosting combined. And

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when you post on your.com,

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through the Blueberry website, you are the origin

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of the content, and you can take that

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with you and that authority with you if

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you ever leave Blueberry to another website. So

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I think that is something

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that is a main difference with us than

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some of these other

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platforms that do provide you, an easy to

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build

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site. But I don't think a lot of

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people think long term

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when it comes to Google, and

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I think we do and we understand the

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implications,

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of the difference between being a point of

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origin for content and

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a syndication. So but, you know, at the

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same time, if you wanna have just a

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landing page on Blueberry, that's fine. We do

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provide that for you.

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Yeah. We'll let you know we have the,

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regular directory listing here at Blueberry. We also

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have a thing called quick links, which is

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can be a kind of a landing page.

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So,

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in fact, let listen to the last episode.

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They talk all about the

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the, quick links landing page.

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But probably another reason people don't set up

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a website, they just wanna do the show

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and not mess with the rest and keep

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it simple. And here's the best part.

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You you do you do the way you

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wanna do it. We we provide you all

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options here at Blueberry, and we're not about

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locking you into

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a specific way. We can we can suggest

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and, you know, prod and and, you know,

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try to get you guys to to think

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like we do, but, you know, you're maybe

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not ready for that. And, that's that's okay.

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Keep it simple. Keep on podcasting. Do what

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you love to do about creating content. I

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think that's the most important part

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in the end.

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And, of course,

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again, some of you live on social media,

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and that's where you build your audiences. That's

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fine. That's you know, I think if your

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listeners interact with you,

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that's awesome too. And the interaction, I think,

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is, you know, a big part of

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the motivation to stay podcasting. So, we don't

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pooh pooh that at all.

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No. You know? And, again, as Todd said

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before, you know, there's no rules in podcasting.

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There's a few standards to make everything

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distribute right.

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But, you know, here at Blueberry, we give

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you all the choices and, you pick what

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you want and you can always graduate to

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something else.

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That's that's the beauty of it.

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No no rules. Do you?

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I do. I like to say we have

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the best in class options for everyone.

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So the for the options that we give

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and basically having a landing page

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or having your own .com with Blueberry or

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going out on your own and having your

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own WordPress website,

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we give you the best of class. So

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those even though you may only have a

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landing page, it still is it's very, very

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powerful, giving you the data to grow your

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show and be found,

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all the way through again,

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going to the complete,

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side of having your website and using PowerPress

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stand alone. And tens of thousands of you

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do. And,

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that's why we built the platform the way

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it is.

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I guess, unless you get anything else, Mike,

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I think we'll thank everyone for listening.

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We'll do a little housekeeping here. We're gonna

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be at,

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podcast movement,

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probably while you're listening to this.

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But if you happen to be in the

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DC area, come check it out.

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Also, next week, we're going to we're gonna

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attempt to record

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show,

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at at the, podcast movement. So, anyway, thanks

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for listening. Check back next week, and we'll

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catch you later.

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Thanks for joining us. Come back next week.

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And in the meantime, head to podcastinsider.com

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for more information.

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To subscribe, share, and read our show notes,

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check out the latest suite of services, and

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learn how Blueberry

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can help you leverage your podcast, visit blueberry.com.

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That's Blueberry without the ease because it can't

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afford the ease.