Sept. 1, 2022
New Places to Listen to Podcasts – PCI 310
Apple Podcasts 
TuneIn 
Deezer 
Paypal There are a few new places to listen to podcasts, and you’re probably already familiar with these platforms. YouTube and Twitter have taken another step forward in podcast discovery. While Mike and MacKenzie chat about podcast directories and platforms, they catch up on Podcast Movement a bit, reusing and repurposing content and, of course, offering their take on what to do with a problematic microphone situation.
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NewsNew places to listen to podcasts: – YouTube is rolling out a podcast section. – Podcasts coming to Twitter? A full circle moment for Twitter.
- Apple is updating its RSS requirements in 2023
- Podcasting market to grow 30% through 2026
- Comedy is the #1 Genre in Podcasting (for Q2-2022)
- New podcast app Fountain has a new chart “Hot on Fountain”
- Six things podcast listeners love about podcasts (and 4 that drive them crazy)
- Zoom takes over podcasting
Taking care of your voice. If podcasting or any type of audio is part of your regular content, it’s in your best interest to take care of your voice / health.
Blubrry News- Getting back into the groove after Podcast Movement.
- Todd will be at DragonCon this weekend in Atlanta, GA.
- It’s Sept. 1, the first day of International Podcast Day month. They’re coming back this year for a live stream, only 8 hours instead of their longest, 32 hours.
Repeating ideas for new content
Question of the WeekQuestion: My recording is getting a lot of background noise. How do I reduce the background noise coming into my microphone?
Answer: The main thing is to NOT record any background noise. I know, that sounds too simple.
Simple things you can do that will help:
- Make sure you are in the quietest place you can be.
- Turn off fans, A/C and other noise-producing things in your recording area.
- Soundproof behind you.
- Put a rug on the floor if you are in a room without carpet.
- Close curtains / blinds so the noise doesn’t echo off the windows.
- Get closer to the microphone and turn down the gain.
- You can boost it in post-production with something like auphonic.
- If you have a dynamic mic, use that instead of a condenser mic.
- Remember, a little bit of ‘ambiance’ doesn’t hurt sometimes. AND, sometimes, you just can’t help it.
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And welcome to podcast insider for
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September 1st, 2022. I'm Mike
Dell. I'm the host this week.
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And joining me is McKenzie Bennett again,
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how are you feeling after,
uh, catching some crud? Oh.
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Yeah. I don't know what happened at
podcast movement last week, but, um,
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something got me, something got show too.
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You guys are, uh,
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sniffling and hacking and you're you're
voice does sound better this, uh,
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today than it did yesterday, so.
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Okay.
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Good. Yeah, I think you're
getting there.
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Socher early.
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So we got our normal news and uh,
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some blueberry stuff and a best practice
and, uh, no interview this week,
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but we have one coming,
I believe next week.
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Of course our blueberry pro tip
end the question of the week mm-hmm
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so, uh,
let's get to the news.
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So YouTube is rolling out
a podcast section. Uh,
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you may or may not be able to get there
depending on where you're at or your
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account, whether it's enabled or not.
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But to me it looks just like
a bunch of videos that, uh,
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call themselves podcasts.
But what do I know?
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yeah, to be honest, um, I
haven't really heard much about this.
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Like I heard, uh,
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mumblings of it at podcast movement last
week when it was basically announced,
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but I didn't really look into it.
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So is it kind of just like a profile
page saying like you have a podcast,
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but it's just YouTube videos.
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Yeah. It's just, uh,
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a section that says podcasts and
then there's a whole bunch of
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podcasts listed, but they're,
you know, YouTubes of podcasts.
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So, you know,
that's fine. You know,
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there's some of 'em that are just static
image and audio playing and there's
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others in here that are, uh, you
know, actual videos of podcasts.
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So, you know, that's cool,
whatever they wanna call it,
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but it's really just YouTube
videos of podcasters.
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I'm, I'm just,
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I'm not gonna get upset about
the intricate details anymore.
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About what people call a podcast.
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No, me either don't.
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Wanna call it a podcast. Great.
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Yeah. You know, podcast is, I guess,
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becoming a generic term for
internet, audio or video,
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maybe mm-hmm there's
other ways of doing it anyway. Yeah.
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I'm not gonna get hung up on that either,
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but guess who else is
jumping into podcasting?
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Twitter is back isn't that how
they started like a long time ago.
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They.
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Originally O which was a, uh,
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I guess a directory of podcasts.
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I remember them vaguely from way
back at the beginning, but, uh, yeah,
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Jack Dorsey and, uh, that
crew, uh, ran O and then, uh,
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pivoted into Twitter or micro
blogging is what they called it.
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And so there's where we're at now
with Twitter. So they're anyway,
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they're, uh, adding, and
then I use big air quotes,
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podcasts to Twitter because what
they're doing is they're just curating
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a list of podcasts that you, that
they think you might be interested in,
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which I, it hasn't rolled out to
me yet. So I have not seen it.
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Yes, same.
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I don't know if I would really say
that's podcasting is coming to Twitter.
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I'd say that's more of
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Know, they're
just kind of recommending podcasts.
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It looks like, and you can listen to
them right in the Twitter app apparently,
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but, uh, oh, okay. I haven't
got it yet, but you know,
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it's the same thing I was talking about
when Facebook added podcasts and then
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quickly got rid of them is, you know,
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I don't go to Facebook for podcasts,
you know, neither do I, I go to pod,
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I go to Facebook to maybe
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podcasters or promote business
or whatever, you know, but,
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uh, it's not a podcast destination.
And, you know, Twitter's the same thing.
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I, you know,
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I don't consider it a destination now
maybe by figuring out who I follow
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and what tweets I put out or whatever,
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maybe they can give me some decent
recommendations so that, you know,
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that may be cool. But, uh,
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and I'm not gonna sit in Twitter
and listen to podcasts. I don't.
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Think I wouldn't either. Um, but you know,
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some people do use social
media in other ways than we do.
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We've been involved in podcasting for a
very long time and we are kind of set in
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our listening ways.
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That's true. So.
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Who knows, maybe this will get
some other people you never.
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Know. Yeah, that is true
for sure. Ah, alright.
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So this next story is, uh,
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apple is updating their
technical specifications for RSS,
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which, uh, you know, nothing
too earth shattering,
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except for no more email addresses in the,
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in the feed. So yeah.
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So how will that affect people?
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Uh, well, they're,
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they're gonna have to find another
way to authenticate ownership of a
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podcast feed, which, uh, the guys
over at podcast 2.0 are working on,
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and I know they talk to apple, so maybe
they'll come together on some sort of,
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you know, some sort of a way of doing
that without using email. Okay. So, but I,
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you know, they're, they're a little
ahead of it. They're announcing it now.
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It's gonna be in 2023 that
they're changing. It's.
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Closer than we think.
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Yeah. I it's, you know, we're
into September, holy CRI,
you know,. Yeah.
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But where'd the summer
go. Uh, yeah. But yeah,
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you know, getting the,
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the email out of feeds is a
good idea. I mean, you know,
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you, and I probably both get a
bunch of spam because of that. Or,
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or at least I do, you know,
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and I've got two or three shows with
my email addresses the account and,
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you know, I get all kinds of pitches,
you know, move away from blueberry, blah,
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blah, blah. You know,, mm-hmm
if we do get those too,
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mm-hmm, I I've been assured
by the company that was doing that,
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that, uh, that is stopping.
So that's good. We did,
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I did have a chat with them at
the, uh, at the show last week, so.
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We'll take their word for it.
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Yes. So I hope so, but, uh, anyway, okay.
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So this is the story you
found over on newswires.
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Yes, it is. This is, um,
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it says the podcasting global
market is going to grow at a rate
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of 30% through the next
couple years through 2026.
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Yeah. That's.
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So this is really saying that, you know,
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it's expected to grow over
58 billion to grow two
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58 billion in 2026. Oh.
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Wow. That's uh, you know, I think we
just busted a billion last year..
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So.
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So that's good. That's a
long way to go.
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Yeah, this is, I mean,
it's a combination of,
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it says sales of podcasting services by
entities. That would definitely be us.
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Yeah. Um, and then I believe
advertising is involved in.
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This. Oh yeah, definitely.
It's gotta be advertising and.
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It's everything.
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Yeah. Well, I mean pay,
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I'm, I'm certainly, uh,
willing to, uh, take that ride,
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so.
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Yeah. Very good. Very good.
All right. So the, the,
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uh, top 10 genres came out to
Edison research for quarter two
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and, uh, comedy is back
on top for a long time.
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We replaced it for a.
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While. Yeah.
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News was on there for probably
most of the pandemic years
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there. Excellent. And, uh, I think
comedy was like third, you know,
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true crime was up there. Religious
has always been up there,
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but I don't see them on the list. Well,
okay. They're number 10 now, but, uh,
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yeah, so it goes, comedy is number one
news, number two, society and culture.
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Number three, true crime, four sports,
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five business six. Now, if look,
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listening to our customers business
would be number two, probably.
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Yeah, I would say so.
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Arts is seven TV and
film is eight that's down
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from number six.
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And education is up from
number 10 at number nine and
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religion, uh, was number nine and they
kind of switched spots with education.
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Okay. So, so anyway, that's the
latest from Edison research.
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I mean, it's just following
the way of the world right now.
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Oh yeah. Well, you know,
everybody can use a little comedy.
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We had a little comedy getting
this recording started didn't we.
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You know what, yeah. Quite a
bit, actually, quite a bit.
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Maybe it was tragedy. I
don't know, but.
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Only if we would have to record again.
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Yes, this is true. So we've
got two recorders running,
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so one of 'em ought to stay
running. I don't know. All right. The, uh,
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and when I say new podcast
app, I mean the new, uh,
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podcast apps that, uh,
podcast 2.0 supported apps.
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Uh, but anyway, fountain, which is,
uh, recent come or to podcasting,
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now they have a new chart. So just
what the world needs more charts,
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but this one's called hot on
fountain. And, uh, I think it's, uh,
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skewed more towards a lot of the shows
that are doing value for value. Okay. Uh,
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with a podcast 2.0, but, uh,
yeah, no agendas number two,
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which surprised me. Uh, there's one,
uh, number one there, rabbit hole recap.
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I have no idea what that is,
but, uh, there, number one.
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I haven't heard of this app yet.
Um, is it Android and iPhone?
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Yeah. Yeah. Fountain, uh, it's,
it's, it's the app that, uh,
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a lot of people use for streaming
Satoshis to, uh, podcasters.
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And.
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That would be why.
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I have, yeah, it's a it's yeah. It's,
it's a little on the geeky side still,
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but, uh, it's getting there, but
it's a, it's a pretty decent, uh,
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listening app and you can
earn Satoshi's for listening,
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which is interesting. I don't know
how they're funding that, but, uh,
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it is cool. I've been, uh,
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using it on some of the shows
that I listen to if they're, uh,
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value enabled and uh, that way
I can stream some stats to them.
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And then I earn some sta sat and
it's just kind of fun. Like I said,
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I don't suspect that I'm gonna be
making a million dollars anytime soon on
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Bitcoin pieces, but
, you never know. I.
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Mean, if, yeah, if that was likely for
that to happen, I would actually care.
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Yeah. But yeah. And this show is over
on fountain, of course. And it is, uh,
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value enabled.
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So you can earn extra money if you listen
on fountain or at least earn some SATs
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to then pass on to your
favorite podcaster. Yeah.
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This is something that came out, uh,
during podcast movement, new voodoo,
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there we go. Yeah. New voodoo, new voodoo.
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They come out with a thanks to six things.
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Listeners love about podcasts
and four that make 'em crazy.
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And I didn't really
dig too much into this.
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They have don't, they.
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Have like a chart of the
things and it looks like
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gen Z male has like true crime and
pop culture and scripted comedy
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and managing money and comedy and
gen Z female has true crime comedy
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self-help pop culture and managing
money, millennial male, managing money,
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comedy, sports, business
productivity, millennial, female,
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true crime comedy self-help
news, health, and fitness.
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All of the different
types of content. Yeah.
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Well see, I gen X for
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I don't listen to any sports
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Yeah. I would say, I mean,
you've, you seem to be in the, uh,
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minority there yeah. Of your
age group of your, you know?
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Yeah. Well, that's not abnormal for
me, so that's good. But yeah, it's,
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it's an interesting article.
And, uh, like I said,
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the little bit that I read about it,
they don't have like a straight list of,
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uh, of the crazy, uh, things.
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So I think they're talking more
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So,
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and like the ones that you actually like
compared to the ones you do not enjoy.
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Yeah. And ironically, this next story,
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uh we're we're using
zoom today because, uh,
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we figured out that Skype is what
causes my roader to crash. So.
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yeah. You're roader
two or whatever it's.
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Called. Yeah. Roader pro two. Yeah.
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at road who made the thing and, uh,
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they're trying to figure out why that
would happen and gave me some pointers and
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I haven't had a chance to
test it out yet. So we'll, uh,
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we'll see if we can get back to
where we're using our normal setup,
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but may not have to, since you're, uh,
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you got a new microphone
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Yeah. So I'm still waiting on
our stuff to be delivered, um,
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coming back from podcast
movement last week,
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but we ended up getting me one
of the sure. Microphones. Yeah.
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The one that I was using to record last
week when we were at podcast movement,
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it was the, uh, I believe
it's the MV seven.
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Yep. MV seven. When we
got you the USB version.
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So you can record from home.
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You won't have to deal with
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Yeah. The equipment at the office
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And, um, I, uh, I hate it. Yeah.
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What if you used it every day and
stuff, that's a great setup, but again,
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you know, you don't, you're not in
there much, but anyway, uh, the,
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the article we were talking,
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we were going to talk about zoom kind
of took over podcasting, you know,
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lately you hear almost, not
everybody, but you know,
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there's a lot of people that are using
zoom for these remote recordings,
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especially during the whole COVID
thing, when everybody was locked down,
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staying home and all that, you know, a
lot of stuff was done over zoom. I mean,
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you see it everywhere. And, uh, but they
had a survey that finds it. You know,
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some of the pre pandemic
habits are starting to return.
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So maybe zoom will lose a little steam
there. But, uh, I tell you, you know,
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it's been pretty solid for us, uh, not
for podcasting necessarily, but for,
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you know, pretty much all of our.
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Day to day operations. Yeah. We use
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I'm on it too much..
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You are.
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But, uh, you know, and you know,
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I used to use go toeing and that
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but this, you know,
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zoom seems to be a little more solid
and stable and easier to use. And,
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you know, I don't blame people
for using it for podcasts.
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The quality's quite decent. I mean, you
know, Mackenzie sounds pretty good. Uh,
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and she's remote to me and we're
recording it here on my end.
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I think if you've got the setup,
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Oh, certainly. Certainly. Yeah. And
here's our best practice for today.
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Uh, Mackenzie, you came
up with that and, uh,
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it's kind of ironic that your
voice was shot yesterday..
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Yeah. So, um, our, our
tip of the day is, uh,
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taking care of your voice.
Um, if you work in podcasting,
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do anything for voiceover,
generally do anything for audio,
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even if you're just doing stuff for
social media, like TikTok or, you know,
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um, Instagram reels or
literally anything mm-hmm,
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where you're gonna
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take care of it last week, Nike,
you were one of them, you know,
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we're on the expo floor,
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we're going to the parties in the
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politely happily yelling at each other
to be able to hear each other. And, um,
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yeah.
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My voice was shot.
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Your voice was shot last week when we
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perfectly fine. I was so good.
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And then I got home and got real sick
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I don't sound great today, but I sound
much better than I did. Yeah. Yeah.
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I attribute that to lots of tea.
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yeah. Well, you know,
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taking care of your voice while
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like a glass of water or
something handy, you know,
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don't eat while you're podcasting.
So many people do that.
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The people that think that's
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but that's a whole other discussion,
but, um, yeah, lots of like,
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don't do any dairy, um,
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like immediately before you
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if you're gonna be doing
this on a regular basis,
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really just try to keep
this in mind because.
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Yeah. You'll, you'll learn over time.
What, what works, what doesn't, but,
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you know, going to a party, a loud party,
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right before you record where you're
screaming the night before you might wake
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up with a, you know, a
crappy voice.
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There's gonna be like one person who's
gonna end up sounding cooler and like
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sounds good with it. And then everyone
else is gonna sound like I do right now.
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but take care of yourself. I
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if you're mm-hmm,
if you're sick, you sh you know,
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it's not any fun to podcast, so.
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No.
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But you're doing it. Thank
you. yes. Well,
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she had to come to the office anyway
to get our delivery of, uh, of stuff.
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So I.
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Guess it.
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A, uh, wasn't too bad.
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Multi task day too at the office.
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All right. So on the blueberry stuff,
really, not a whole lot in there.
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Uh, of course we're getting back in
the groove after podcast movement.
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And I think overall it was
a pretty good show. Uh,
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the traffic was a little
bit down, I think,
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for the number of people that were
there at the booth, but, you know, the,
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the networking was really good. I
got to talk to a lot of people, uh,
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a lot less newbies at this
show than, uh, say podcast or,
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uh, some podcast movements in the past.
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It seems like we talked to a
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I kind of saw this. I feel like, uh,
she podcasts last October as well,
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that you're speaking
to someone who is still
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learning and still excited to
learn. And doesn't, you know,
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doesn't feel like they
know everything already,
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but they have been podcasting for like
a year or two now. Um, as in like,
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they, they started
sometime probably honestly,
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during COVID at home and they
did quite a bit of learning on
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their own and they feel confident
and they know that they enjoy this.
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I wanna stick with it. And now
they're showing up to events saying,
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what can I do to really take this
above and beyond from what I'm doing
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currently. So, right.
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Was nice to talk to people who are,
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who are looking for somewhat professional
services. They're taking it seriously.
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Like, yeah, podcasting's fun, but we
want you to like, do well at it too.
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oh yeah. You know,
there's, there's hobbyist
podcasters, and, you know,
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there's people just
starting out and, you know,
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they might start out on something
like anchor or, you know,
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some something that's, uh,
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free or cheap and then decide they
really wanna graduate to the next
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level of podcasting. So yeah, we talked
to a lot of those people and, uh,
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I've been moving them this week already
moving people from various other
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hosts and, and whatnot. And, uh, just,
just generally, uh, you know, a lot of,
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lot of questions of, you know, kind
of a consulting, like thing I, I got,
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those are kinda my.
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Favorite conversations. Yeah.
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It was great. You know, they, people were
telling me what they wanna try to do,
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and then we try to figure out how to make
it happen for them. And, you know, I,
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I, I don't know. It was
great. And, you know,
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every time I go to one of
these things, I see of course,
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a ton of people that I
know. Yeah. You know,
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that's kind of the family reunion part
of it. Mm-hmm. And then,
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uh, I run into a lot of people that I
don't know, and I've never seen before.
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And, uh, and a lot of companies
booths and stuff that, you know,
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were never there before. And
some that were there, you know,
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in years past aren't there now. And
it it's, it's just kind of fun to,
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to see the evolution of,
uh, of what's going on.
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I did notice also there was
a lot more presence from big,
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bigger corporate podcasters, uh,
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or podcast companies.
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The, yeah. The, the
organizations behind it.
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Yeah. That, that whole upstairs hall,
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there was just full of huge companies
that like, dang, you know, they,
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got a big booth of, you
know, and, uh, was it, uh, serious?
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Was there, uh, Spotify was
there daily wire was there,
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there was a bunch of big
mm-hmm companies
that, well, you know,
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Spotify's been there co last couple years,
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but Sirius XM had a pretty big presence
upstairs there, you know, that's cool.
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Of course, they've got a
bunch of different, uh,
brands under their wing there.
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And Amazon was there with wonder mm-hmm
and all that. So yeah.
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They sponsored one of
the parties. Of course,
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iHeart always sponsors the big party.
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they? Yeah. They've been doing
that a couple years now, but, um,
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but it just kind of goes to show
how things have a lot of people,
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a lot of organizations, um,
were bought or consolidated.
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However you wanna think of it in the
past couple years, really joining forces,
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whether we wanted to, like people
wanted them to or not. Um, so that's.
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Consolidation, it happens.
Yeah. Uh, you know.
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Yeah. I see the good and the bad
out of many of those relationships.
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Uh, but it,
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it does make sense that they would be
starting to kind of show their show their
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faces at an event like
this more nowadays. And,
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and going back to that article we had
before of, you know, 30% growth by 2026,
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like, this is, this is
part of the reason why.
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That's, how it happens.
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And one thing I did notice that
apple had a more public presence
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there. They didn't have a
booth or anything, but, uh, I,
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I seen a lot more of the apple team this
time than, uh, we have in years past.
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And I mean, we might also see that more
up close because they know our faces.
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Oh.
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Of course. But, you know, but,
but you know, it was, yeah,
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probably to the average attendee,
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they probably didn't know if they were
talking to somebody from apple.
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Yeah. But, uh, you know, of course
we had a, we had a meeting with 'em.
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We always meet with 'em at least once, uh,
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at these events that they're
at mm-hmm and,
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and you Todd and I had a little little
meeting about something upcoming that's
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been announced, uh, that's gonna be
happening this fall, which would be cool.
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And we talked a little
bit about their, uh,
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RSS update or their requirements
update RSS isn't updating, but, uh,
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Apple's requirements are updating,
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which is gonna cause the rest of the
industry to sort of follow along,
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which is good, you know, cuz.
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As it always does.
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Yeah. Cuz they, they are sort of the
leader of this. I mean they don't own it,
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but they, you know, they definitely, uh,
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drive some of the technical stuff and
it was really good that they're talking
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with, uh, Dave and Adam from uh,
podcast 2.0 mm-hmm uh,
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or podcast index. So, uh,
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maybe we'll get some of that stuff
supported by apple. That would be awesome.
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But yeah, overall I think it was a, a
worthy show, a Cho got her first, uh,
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trade show experience.
And uh, she did, she did,
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she did really well and she dragged
me off to a couple of booths. Oh,
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check this out. Oh, check that
out. it was great. Uh,
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I've been playing with that
E cam live thing, but uh,
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it wasn't ready for prime time yet.
So we're not trying it this week,
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but UHS pretty.
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Soon and we will soon.
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Yep. So soon look for that.
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Uh that'll that'll up our video game
for, uh, for live. So let's see,
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Todd's gonna be at dragon
con this weekend in Atlanta.
417
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,240
He's probably on a plane now. Uh, yeah,
I believe so. From, from Las Vegas,
418
00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:26,600
he had another event in Las Vegas
this week. That's why he is not here.
419
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,080
Traveling, man.
420
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:32,280
Yeah. He's been on the road.
It'll be two, two full weeks.
421
00:23:32,410 --> 00:23:33,640
By the time he gets home.
422
00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:36,720
So either he is gonna be ready
to sit still or you want,
423
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,720
he is gonna ready to jump on another
airplane and go on vacation. Maybe.
424
00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:42,920
I don't know. we'll see.
425
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,640
Sounds like he deserves a vacation.
426
00:23:45,460 --> 00:23:49,680
Yes. Yes. It's the first day of
international podcast day month.
427
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,760
Is it such a thing?
428
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,960
I don't know, but I'm gonna
go ahead and say that there is Mike,
429
00:23:54,030 --> 00:23:57,160
I saw it on, I saw someone mention
it on Twitter and I was like,
430
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,400
that's a great thing to say.
431
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,290
yep. Yep.
432
00:23:59,290 --> 00:24:04,160
So the international podcast day is
back for a live stream this year,
433
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,840
but they're gonna do a reasonable eight
hours instead of a ridiculous 32 hours.
434
00:24:08,890 --> 00:24:09,640
So.
435
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,160
Honestly, very understandable.
436
00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:14,080
And I don't know if we're gonna
be involved in that and or not.
437
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,840
I think we probably will in
some way or another. And uh,
438
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,040
but yeah. Look for that at, uh, gonna
be on the, I believe the 30th, right?
439
00:24:23,290 --> 00:24:23,840
Uh, yes.
440
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,840
Yeah. So it'll be on the 30th.
It'll be more information.
441
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,440
We'll talk about it coming
up to it cuz you know,
442
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,720
Steve and Dave are good friends of the
show here, so we'll definitely, uh,
443
00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:38,320
promote that whether we're
involved or not. Yeah. Big fans of.
444
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,670
Them.
445
00:24:38,670 --> 00:24:42,240
Yeah. Definitely something else I
was gonna mention. Yeah. There's a,
446
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,640
there's another podcast day
Australia and podcast day
447
00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:51,840
for, uh, UK. It's gonna be like
in the first week of October,
448
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,960
I'll have more information
about that as well.
449
00:24:54,010 --> 00:24:58,360
So there's more people getting into
that sort of around this time of year
450
00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:59,280
podcast day.
451
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,200
okay. Dunno why it's around
this time of year, but that's okay.
452
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:07,400
Well it's Steve and Dave. They
well so all right.
453
00:25:07,570 --> 00:25:12,160
So I got a, a pro tip here from
Toby. So, uh, let's listen to that.
454
00:25:17,130 --> 00:25:19,520
Hi, it's Toby Goodman here today.
455
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Podcast content problems
through the lens of Elton John,
456
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:27,800
when a VIP podcasting client flew from
the USA into London telling me she wanted
457
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,720
to see Elton John, I knew I
needed to get a few tickets,
458
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,400
especially when I discovered he was
playing just up the road from my home.
459
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,480
But honestly I was concerned Elton isn't,
460
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,760
someone I'd paid too much attention
to in the last 25 years or so.
461
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:45,480
And the videos of him playing during
lockdown suggested he might be past his
462
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,160
best, but to cut to the night
of the show, I was blown away.
463
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,760
The show was amazing. I had
the best time he sang well,
464
00:25:52,940 --> 00:25:56,200
but what was most impressive
were the production values,
465
00:25:56,410 --> 00:26:00,600
an ACE band with arrangements sensitively
supporting his vocal limitations,
466
00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:05,600
coupled with a production crew who
made his old songs sound fresh.
467
00:26:06,030 --> 00:26:08,680
Unlike these stay at home
restrictions of COVID.
468
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,560
This was a real team effort looking
around the place tens of thousands of
469
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,640
people were clearly
feeling the same as I was.
470
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:19,520
What's all this got to do with
podcasting. Well, I get that.
471
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680
You might sometimes have concerns
about generating new content,
472
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,240
but I've come to learn that
it's okay to repeat your ideas.
473
00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:29,320
I may have discovered Elton
John many decades ago,
474
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,600
but I was genuinely
enthused to hear songs.
475
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,080
I was familiar with being performed
with a slightly different approach.
476
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:39,520
The environment I was in was
new, his tempo and tone changed.
477
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:42,760
The truth is it's impossible
to sing the same song.
478
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,720
Exactly the same more than once and
side note in an episode entitled
479
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:51,400
Parais of Malcolm Gladwell's
revisionist history podcast,
480
00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:56,120
he shares a story about how Elvis only
ever sang are you lonesome tonight
481
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,640
correctly. Once anyway, back in London,
482
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,200
Elton reinforced my belief that these
songs were well crafted and I was happy to
483
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,160
hear them in a new context,
484
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,760
great artists learn that playing the
hit is a great way to create a long and
485
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,593
prosperous career.
486
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:15,040
And I'm pretty sure podcasters could
learn a thing or two from that.
487
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:18,320
This isn't about me convincing
you to like Elton John.
488
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,720
This is about me letting you know
that if you have a position as a
489
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,760
podcaster, don't worry
about running out of ideas.
490
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,360
Listeners come and go and may
not have heard you early stuff.
491
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:33,840
You have a responsibility to your
listener and yourself to be able to convey
492
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840
your message in a number
of different ways.
493
00:27:36,210 --> 00:27:41,000
So maybe it's not more ideas you need
just more ways to communicate and
494
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,833
connect them.
495
00:27:42,010 --> 00:27:46,200
So if you are looking for the podcast
equivalent of Elton John's band and
496
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,760
production team, to make sure your
podcast makes your listeners ears dance,
497
00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:52,760
the blueberry pro team
are your perfect choice.
498
00:27:52,780 --> 00:27:55,680
And we'd love to hear
from you come and say hi
499
00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:58,520
over@blueberrypro.com.
500
00:28:04,510 --> 00:28:07,760
Yeah, that makes sense. Uh,
we, we do that a lot here.
501
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,080
We'll talk about the same
things, but in a different way,
502
00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:13,680
uh, quite a bit.
503
00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:16,440
It's just like how ads
work. You have to hear.
504
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,720
'em a certain number of times
before they really click in.
505
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:23,080
Yeah, that's true. And you know,
there's always new people coming in and,
506
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,720
and people dropping off and
mm-hmm,, you know,
507
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,920
they may not have heard this particular
tip that we would give out. And uh,
508
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,480
you know, of course, you know, sometimes
we call it beating a dead horse,
509
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,640
but that's because we're here every
week, you know but you know,
510
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,760
not everybody is.
511
00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:42,840
Yeah. I loved that. Elton
John analogy though.
512
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,640
And it's a good thing that I muted myself
while listening to that, because one,
513
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,600
I had a coughing fit and two, I almost
spit out my tea when he said Elton John.
514
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,193
so.
515
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:53,680
Well done. Toby.
516
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,800
Yeah. And I liked the, uh, in Elvis
too. Never sang that song right.
517
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,240
Once or only sang it once. Right.
Probably when you recorded it.
518
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:08,280
And uh, the question of the week
and this one came from Facebook,
519
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600
I don't remember who, but uh,
520
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,640
she said my recording is getting
a lot of background noise.
521
00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:18,280
How do I reduce the background
noise coming into my microphone?
522
00:29:19,020 --> 00:29:23,280
The main thing is to not record any
background noise. And I, you know,
523
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,160
that sounds kind of simple, doesn't it?
Uh, but, but things you can do,
524
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,080
that'll help, uh, make sure you're in the
quietest place you can be now. You're,
525
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,960
you're kind of, uh,
526
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,960
you're in our studio and apparently you're
doing construction next door
527
00:29:38,170 --> 00:29:38,710
so.
528
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:42,000
Yeah, they stopped. But when
I was going through the drama,
529
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,200
that is this studio at the
beginning, when I first got here, um,
530
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,520
there was a lot going on. I have a
feeling, they took a launch break.
531
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:52,160
Well, that's good. So, uh, we, we timed
it. Right. That's the other thing,
532
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,200
time it right..
533
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:55,080
Yeah. Good.
534
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Point. You know, if you know, you know,
535
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,600
if you got someone mowing your
lawn or something, uh, you know,
536
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,720
or there's construction going on, wait
till they take a break, if you can,
537
00:30:03,820 --> 00:30:07,920
you know, sometimes you can't, but
uh, but do do the best you can.
538
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,960
Don't blame your neighbors.
539
00:30:10,410 --> 00:30:10,870
No.
540
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:15,560
I saw some terrible TikTok the
other day or something that was
541
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,880
about, um, the people
upstairs getting yelled at,
542
00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:22,480
by their neighbors down below who
are podcasters. And they were like,
543
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,000
I'm we have to live our lives, you're
recording. And like, uh, run the mill,
544
00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:29,400
not fancy apartment building.
I don't know what you expected.
545
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,320
Like you're gonna have
some noise around you.
546
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:35,680
Yeah. And you know, that, that does
happen, but there's things you can do,
547
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,200
you know? Yes. Like, you know, turn off
anything with a fan. It, if you can,
548
00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:43,360
you know, now a lot of people have
computers with loud fans. Well,
549
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160
just make sure that's behind your
microphone and not, you know,
550
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,680
not in front of it, turn off your air
conditioning, if you can, you know,
551
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,080
if you're not gonna roast, you know, any
other noise producing things, you know,
552
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,760
that's one of the reasons I don't have
a refrigerator in my office because the
553
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,560
damn things make noise..
554
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,640
Mm-hmm, like,
don't sit next to a window.
555
00:31:02,930 --> 00:31:04,960
If you live on the street, like I do.
556
00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:09,080
Yeah. Or, you know, you can soundproof
behind you is the best place,
557
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,560
but you know, around,
if you can, you know,
558
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360
hang a blanket up behind you
when you record that's, you know,
559
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,840
if you don't have a permanent way of
noise proving or make sure your background
560
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,760
has like a bookshelf and some
books on it and you know,
561
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,600
something that's just not a flat wall.
562
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,800
The beloved podcast Fort it works.
563
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:29,240
Yeah. And then, uh, you know, of course,
564
00:31:29,370 --> 00:31:32,440
if you're in a room that
doesn't have carpet, get a,
565
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:37,040
get a rug to stick under under your chair
and yeah. You know, and all that, uh,
566
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:41,400
you know, just, or, you know, close
curtains or blinds on windows, if you can,
567
00:31:42,130 --> 00:31:45,440
uh, that'll uh, help it,
not bounce off the glass.
568
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:48,840
And, uh, that's the beauty of
podcasting. It doesn't have to be pretty.
569
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:51,960
No, it doesn't have to be perfect
either. You know, you know,
570
00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:55,000
I'm sure you've heard little background
noises here and there, you know,
571
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,760
I have I'm in the single worst place
on the planet to podcast I'm next to a
572
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,880
coast guard air station.
573
00:32:00,930 --> 00:32:05,120
So I get helicopters flying over mm-hmm
I get jets landing. I get,
574
00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:09,640
uh, I'm near the bay. So I get jet
skis. I get I'm on a five lane road.
575
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,600
I've got train tracks here. You
know, I got all kinds of things,
576
00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:17,600
but I think my recordings
usually sound pretty decent. You.
577
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,560
Do you make it work? Because.
578
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,440
I made, you know, I've made some
changes in the room here that, uh,
579
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,240
that helped the quietness a bit.
So, and another thing, uh, you know,
580
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,440
if you still have some noise, whatever,
581
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,880
turn the gain down on your recording
system, your microphone, and, uh,
582
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,800
get closer to it. Uh, and then you can
always boost it in postproduction. Uh, I,
583
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,760
I use a phonic, uh,
584
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,280
if I have to do that or I do
use APH phonic anyway, but, uh,
585
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,280
and if you have a dynamic, Mike, use
that instead of any condensers, you know,
586
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000
if you have a definitely you
have a blue snowball, well,
587
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,800
you're kinda on your own on that.
588
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Just turn the gain way down and get up
close to it. But, uh, you know, try,
589
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,040
try to, you know, get a,
590
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,960
a dynamic which definitely rejects
extra noise a bit better than,
591
00:33:04,030 --> 00:33:08,280
than a condenser. And a little bit of
ambiance doesn't hurt a thing. You know,
592
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,800
like last week you could hear
the show floor a little bit,
593
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,760
even though we were in a
supposedly soundproof booth,
594
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:17,560
but you could still hear stuff going
on out on the floor. And, uh, mm-hmm,
595
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,240
, that's fine. We
were on location. You know, if an,
596
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,000
if a helicopter flies over, I'm not
gonna stop recording. It just, you know,
597
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,040
Hey, this helicopter just flew over,
you know, stuff happens. It's not a,
598
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,560
not a big thing. And then sometimes
you just can't help it. So, you know,
599
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,440
do what you do your best, but,
uh, doesn't have to be perfect.
600
00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:39,320
So I think that brings us to a close here.
601
00:33:40,090 --> 00:33:43,640
On a good note, too, that do your best,
but it doesn't have to be perfect. Just,
602
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280
you know what, Mike, you're just
giving out life advice right now.
603
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Not just podcast.
604
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,920
Advice. True. Well, you
know, it is what it is.
605
00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:53,040
So.
606
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Also life advice, just less, uh,
less with a positive spin. There.
607
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,880
Don't wanna be Debbie downer
here. you know, that,
608
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,400
that's the thing about podcasting. It's,
it's not professional all the time.
609
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,920
We're technically a
professional podcast company.
610
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,400
And my first 20 minutes in the office
today, I was like, ringing my hair out,
611
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,760
trying to figure out what was
wrong with a stupid studio.
612
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480
so right.
613
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,200
But doing my best, I got it to.
614
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Work. Yes. And it, you know, you
sound good, but like I say, you know,
615
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,200
sound quality is very
important, but you know,
616
00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:29,800
if you can only do so much
anyway, uh, let's, uh,
617
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,360
close this up and get outta here.
618
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:34,560
Okay. If you have got a question
you'd like us to answer on the show,
619
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,240
please drop us an email to
mike@blueberry.com. It can be audio, text,
620
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:41,240
video doesn't matter. And we may use it.
621
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:45,680
You can also post a question
on the blueberry podcasting
Facebook group that we
622
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,130
have.
623
00:34:46,130 --> 00:34:47,000
Of course, uh,
624
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,040
the blueberry podcasting Facebook group
is not the best place for support.
625
00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:56,160
The best place is, uh,
at blueberry.com/support.
626
00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:59,560
You know, give us the
whole team access to,
627
00:34:59,610 --> 00:35:02,000
to that rather than direct emails, calls,
628
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,040
or social media posts have been
having a lot of those lately.
629
00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:09,000
And speaking of voice, excuse me.
630
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,680
and we are coming to you this
week from I'm in the blueberry studio in
631
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Columbus, Ohio and Mike Dell's world
studio at traverse city, Michigan.
632
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:22,840
And thanks again to the blueberry pro
production team for producing editing,
633
00:35:23,060 --> 00:35:24,640
and making us sound much,
634
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640
much more professional than we
actually are in this episode today.
635
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,000
yeah, they make
us sound smarter. Anyway,
636
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fill out our listener survey at
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insider, and that lets us
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And if you would like to
schedule a one on one with Todd,
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this is for hosting customers only
you can email him@toddblueberry.com.
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Yeah. He does little 30 minute,
uh, consults with people. So, uh,
641
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mm-hmm yeah,
take advantage of that.
642
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There's not very many CEOs of podcast
companies that, uh, will do that.
643
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So very cool.
644
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And then you can always schedule a tech
checkup with me also hosting customers
645
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only you can email Mike blueberry.com
and if you're not a hosting
646
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customers, then, then we'll, uh,
make that into a sales pitch.
647
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And if you would like to
send us your podcast sticker,
648
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we will send you some back.
So send me a self address,
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stamped envelope, and I'll send you back
whatever it can fit inside envelope.
650
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Yeah, we got the mailing address
will be in the show notes. Of course.
651
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And Mackenzie takes care of that. She'll
send you some, uh, some cool stuff and,
652
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uh, yeah, our water bottles really
were hit at the, uh, show last week.
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So yes.
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They were.
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So I got one of them and, uh,
I haven't used it yet. It's uh,
656
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it's soaking right now, so good.
Anyway, everybody have a good week.
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I'm not sure what's happening next
week. I think Todd will be back, but uh.
658
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Well we're all gonna be
out for labor day. Yeah.
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We're gonna be out for Monday
mm-hmm and then, uh,
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back at it Tuesday and, uh, Thursday,
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I think Todd will be in and we'll
probably have the, the live on Facebook,
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but I don't know. And, uh,
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Cho and I are gonna be working
on the E cam live stuff. So, uh,
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look for some cool video
content coming soon.
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Sounds like fun. All.
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And welcome to podcast insider for
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September 1st, 2022. I'm Mike
Dell. I'm the host this week.
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And joining me is McKenzie Bennett again,
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how are you feeling after,
uh, catching some crud? Oh.
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Yeah. I don't know what happened at
podcast movement last week, but, um,
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something got me, something got show too.
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You guys are, uh,
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sniffling and hacking and you're you're
voice does sound better this, uh,
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today than it did yesterday, so.
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Okay.
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Good. Yeah, I think you're
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Socher early.
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So we got our normal news and uh,
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some blueberry stuff and a best practice
and, uh, no interview this week,
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but we have one coming,
I believe next week.
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Of course our blueberry pro tip
end the question of the week mm-hmm
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let's get to the news.
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So YouTube is rolling out
a podcast section. Uh,
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you may or may not be able to get there
depending on where you're at or your
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account, whether it's enabled or not.
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But to me it looks just like
a bunch of videos that, uh,
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call themselves podcasts.
But what do I know?
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haven't really heard much about this.
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mumblings of it at podcast movement last
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but I didn't really look into it.
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So is it kind of just like a profile
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but it's just YouTube videos.
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a section that says podcasts and
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podcasts listed, but they're,
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that's fine. You know,
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there's some of 'em that are just static
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others in here that are, uh, you
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So, you know, that's cool,
whatever they wanna call it,
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but it's really just YouTube
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I'm not gonna get upset about
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About what people call a podcast.
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No, me either don't.
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Wanna call it a podcast. Great.
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becoming a generic term for
internet, audio or video,
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maybe mm-hmm
other ways of doing it anyway. Yeah.
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I'm not gonna get hung up on that either,
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but guess who else is
jumping into podcasting?
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Twitter is back isn't that how
they started like a long time ago.
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Originally O which was a, uh,
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I guess a directory of podcasts.
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I remember them vaguely from way
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Jack Dorsey and, uh, that
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pivoted into Twitter or micro
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they're, uh, adding, and
then I use big air quotes,
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podcasts to Twitter
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a list of podcasts that you, that
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which I, it hasn't rolled out to
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I don't know if I would really say
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I'd say that's more of
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It looks like, and you can listen to
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but, uh, oh, okay. I haven't
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it's the same thing I was talking about
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I don't go to Facebook for podcasts,
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I go to Facebook to maybe
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podcasters or promote business
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uh, it's not a podcast destination.
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I don't consider it a destination now
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maybe they can give me some decent
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that may be cool. But, uh,
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and I'm not gonna sit in Twitter
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some people do use social
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our listening ways.
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That's true. So.
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Who knows, maybe this will get
some other people you never.
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Know. Yeah, that is true
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So this next story is, uh,
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apple is updating their
technical specifications for RSS,
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which, uh, you know, nothing
too earth shattering,
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except for no more email addresses in the,
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in the feed. So yeah.
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So how will that affect people?
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Uh, well, they're,
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they're gonna have to find another
way to authenticate ownership of a
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podcast feed, which, uh, the guys
over at podcast 2.0 are working on,
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and I know they talk to apple, so maybe
they'll come together on some sort of,
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you know, some sort of a way of doing
that without using email. Okay. So, but I,
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you know, they're, they're a little
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It's gonna be in 2023 that
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Closer than we think.
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Yeah. I it's, you know, we're
into September, holy CRI,
you know,
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But where'd the summer
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you know, getting the,
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the email out of feeds is a
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you, and I probably both get a
bunch of spam because of that. Or,
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or at least I do, you know,
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and I've got two or three shows with
my email addresses the account and,
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you know, I get all kinds of pitches,
you know, move away from blueberry, blah,
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blah, blah. You know,
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mm-hmm
by the company that was doing that,
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that, uh, that is stopping.
So that's good. We did,
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I did have a chat with them at
the, uh, at the show last week, so.
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We'll take their word for it.
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Yes. So I hope so, but, uh, anyway, okay.
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So this is the story you
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Yes, it is. This is, um,
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it says the podcasting global
market is going to grow at a rate
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of 30% through the next
couple years through 2026.
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Yeah. That's.
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So this is really saying that, you know,
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it's expected to grow over
58 billion to grow two
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58 billion in 2026. Oh.
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Wow. That's uh, you know, I think we
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So.
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So that's good. That's a
long way to go
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Yeah, this is, I mean,
it's a combination of,
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it says sales of podcasting services by
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Yeah. Um, and then I believe
advertising is involved in.
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This. Oh yeah, definitely.
It's gotta be advertising and.
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It's everything.
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Yeah. Well, I mean pay,
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willing to, uh, take that ride,
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so.
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Yeah. Very good. Very good.
All right. So the, the,
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uh, top 10 genres came out to
Edison research for quarter two
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and, uh, comedy is back
on top for a long time.
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We replaced it for a.
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While. Yeah.
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News was on there for probably
most of the pandemic years
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there. Excellent. And, uh, I think
comedy was like third, you know,
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true crime was up there. Religious
has always been up there,
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but I don't see them on the list. Well,
okay. They're number 10 now, but, uh,
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yeah, so it goes, comedy is number one
news, number two, society and culture.
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Number three, true crime, four sports,
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five business six. Now, if look,
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listening to our customers business
would be number two, probably.
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Yeah, I would say so.
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Arts is seven TV and
film is eight that's down
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from number six.
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And education is up from
number 10 at number nine and
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religion, uh, was number nine and they
kind of switched spots with education.
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Okay. So, so anyway, that's the
latest from Edison research.
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I mean, it's just following
the way of the world right now.
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Oh yeah. Well, you know,
everybody can use a little comedy.
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We had a little comedy getting
this recording started didn't we.
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You know what, yeah. Quite a
bit, actually, quite a bit.
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Maybe it was tragedy. I
don't know, but
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Only if we would have to record again.
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Yes, this is true. So we've
got two recorders running,
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so
running. I don't know. All right. The, uh,
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and when I say new podcast
app, I mean the new, uh,
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podcast apps that, uh,
podcast 2.0 supported apps.
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Uh, but anyway, fountain, which is,
uh, recent come or to podcasting,
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now they have a new chart. So just
what the world needs more charts,
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but this one's called hot on
fountain. And, uh, I think it's, uh,
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skewed more towards a lot of the shows
that are doing value for value. Okay. Uh,
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with a podcast 2.0, but, uh,
yeah, no agendas number two,
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which surprised me. Uh, there's one,
uh, number one there, rabbit hole recap.
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I have no idea what that is,
but, uh, there, number one.
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I haven't heard of this app yet.
Um, is it Android and iPhone?
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Yeah. Yeah. Fountain, uh, it's,
it's, it's the app that, uh,
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a lot of people use for streaming
Satoshis to, uh, podcasters.
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That would be why.
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I have, yeah, it's a it's yeah. It's,
it's a little on the geeky side still,
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but, uh, it's getting there, but
it's a, it's a pretty decent, uh,
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listening app and you can
earn Satoshi's for listening,
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which is interesting. I don't know
how they're funding that, but, uh,
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it is cool. I've been, uh,
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using it on some of the shows
that I listen to if they're, uh,
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value enabled and uh, that way
I can stream some stats to them.
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And then I earn some sta sat and
it's just kind of fun. Like I said,
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I don't suspect that I'm gonna be
making a million dollars anytime soon on
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Bitcoin pieces, but
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Mean, if, yeah, if that was likely for
that to happen, I would actually care.
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Yeah. But yeah. And this show is over
on fountain, of course. And it is, uh,
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value enabled.
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So you can earn extra money if you listen
on fountain or at least earn some SATs
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to then pass on to your
favorite podcaster. Yeah.
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This is something that came out, uh,
during podcast movement, new voodoo,
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there we go. Yeah. New voodoo, new voodoo.
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They come out with a thanks to six things.
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Listeners love about podcasts
and four that make 'em crazy.
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And I didn't really
dig too much into this.
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They have don't, they.
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Have like a chart of the
things and it looks like
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gen Z male has like true crime and
pop culture and scripted comedy
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and managing money and comedy and
gen Z female has true crime comedy
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self-help pop culture and managing
money, millennial male, managing money,
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comedy, sports, business
productivity, millennial, female,
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true crime comedy self-help
news, health, and fitness.
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All of the different
types of content. Yeah.
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Well see, I gen X for
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I don't listen to any sports
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Yeah. I would say, I mean,
you've, you seem to be in the, uh,
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minority there yeah. Of your
age group of your, you know?
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Yeah. Well, that's not abnormal for
me, so that's good. But yeah, it's,
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it's an interesting article.
And, uh, like I said,
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the little bit that I read about it,
they don't have like a straight list of,
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uh, of the crazy, uh, things.
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So I think they're talking more
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and like the ones that you actually like
compared to the ones you do not enjoy.
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Yeah. And ironically, this next story,
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uh we're we're using
zoom today because, uh,
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we figured out that Skype is what
causes my roader to crash. So.
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two or whatever it's.
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Called. Yeah. Roader pro two. Yeah.
And, uh, I talked to the, the people at,
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at road who made the thing and, uh,
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they're trying to figure out why that
would happen and gave me some pointers and
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I haven't had a chance to
test it out yet. So we'll, uh,
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we'll see if we can get back to
where we're using our normal setup,
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but may not have to, since you're, uh,
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you got a new microphone
at podcast movement.
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Yeah. So I'm still waiting on
our stuff to be delivered, um,
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coming back from podcast
movement last week,
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but we ended up getting me one
of the sure. Microphones. Yeah.
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The one that I was using to record last
week when we were at podcast movement,
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it was the, uh, I believe
it's the MV seven.
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Yep. MV seven. When we
got you the USB version.
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So you can record from home.
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You won't have to deal with
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Yeah. The equipment at the office
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And, um, I, uh, I hate it. Yeah.
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What if you used it every day and
stuff, that's a great setup, but again,
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you know, you don't, you're not in
there much, but anyway, uh, the,
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the article we were talking,
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we were going to talk about zoom kind
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lately you hear almost, not
everybody, but you know,
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there's a lot of people that are using
zoom for these remote recordings,
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especially during the whole COVID
thing, when everybody was locked down,
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staying home and all that, you know, a
lot of stuff was done over zoom. I mean,
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you see it everywhere. And, uh, but they
had a survey that finds it. You know,
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some of the pre pandemic
habits are starting to return.
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So maybe zoom will lose a little steam
there. But, uh, I tell you, you know,
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it's been pretty solid for us, uh, not
for podcasting necessarily, but for,
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you know, pretty much all of our.
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Day to day operations. Yeah. We use
it. Yeah. And have almost no problems.
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I'm on it too much.
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You are.
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But, uh, you know, and you know,
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I used to use go toeing and that
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but this, you know,
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zoom seems to be a little more solid
and stable and easier to use. And,
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you know, I don't blame people
for using it for podcasts.
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The quality's quite decent. I mean, you
know, Mackenzie sounds pretty good. Uh,
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and she's remote to me and we're
recording it here on my end.
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I think if you've got the setup,
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Oh, certainly. Certainly. Yeah. And
here's our best practice for today.
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Uh, Mackenzie, you came
up with that and, uh,
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it's kind of ironic that your
voice was shot yesterday.
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Yeah. So, um, our, our
tip of the day is, uh,
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taking care of your voice.
Um, if you work in podcasting,
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do anything for voiceover,
generally do anything for audio,
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even if you're just doing stuff for
social media, like TikTok or, you know,
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um, Instagram reels or
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be recording your voice. Um,
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take care of it last week, Nike,
you were one of them, you know,
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we're on the expo floor,
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we're going to the parties in the
evenings that are loud and we're just
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politely happily yelling at each other
to be able to hear each other. And, um,
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yeah.
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My voice was shot.
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Your voice was shot last week when we
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perfectly fine. I was so good.
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And then I got home and got real sick
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I don't sound great today, but I sound
much better than I did. Yeah. Yeah.
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I attribute that to lots of tea.
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but basically, you know,
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taking care of your voice while
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like a glass of water or
something handy, you know,
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don't eat while you're podcasting.
So many people do that.
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The people that think that's
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but that's a whole other discussion,
but, um, yeah, lots of like,
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don't do any dairy, um,
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like immediately before you
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if you're gonna be doing
this on a regular basis,
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really just try to keep
this in mind because.
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Yeah. You'll, you'll learn over time.
What, what works, what doesn't, but,
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you know, going to a party, a loud party,
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right before you record where you're
screaming the night before you might wake
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up with a, you know, a
crappy voice
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There's gonna be like one person who's
gonna end up sounding cooler and like
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sounds good with it. And then everyone
else is gonna sound like I do right now.
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mean, that's the other thing, you know,
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if you're mm-hmm
if you're sick, you sh you know,
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it's not any fun to podcast, so.
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No.
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But you're doing it. Thank
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she had to come to the office anyway
to get our delivery of, uh, of stuff.
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So I.
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Guess it.
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A, uh, wasn't too bad.
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Multi task day too at the office.
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All right. So on the blueberry stuff,
really, not a whole lot in there.
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Uh, of course we're getting back in
the groove after podcast movement.
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And I think overall it was
a pretty good show. Uh,
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the traffic was a little
bit down, I think,
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for the number of people that were
there at the booth, but, you know, the,
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the networking was really good. I
got to talk to a lot of people, uh,
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a lot less newbies at this
show than, uh, say podcast or,
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uh, some podcast movements in the past.
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It seems like we talked to a
lot of established podcasters.
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I kind of saw this. I feel like, uh,
she podcasts last October as well,
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that you're speaking
to someone who is still
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learning and still excited to
learn. And doesn't, you know,
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doesn't feel like they
know everything already,
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but they have been podcasting for like
a year or two now. Um, as in like,
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they, they started
sometime probably honestly,
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during COVID at home and they
did quite a bit of learning on
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their own and they feel confident
and they know that they enjoy this.
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I wanna stick with it. And now
they're showing up to events saying,
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what can I do to really take this
above and beyond from what I'm doing
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currently. So, right.
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Was nice to talk to people who are,
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who are looking for somewhat professional
services. They're taking it seriously.
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Like, yeah, podcasting's fun, but we
want you to like, do well at it too.
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there's, there's hobbyist
podcasters, and, you know,
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there's people just
starting out and, you know,
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they might start out on something
like anchor or, you know,
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some something that's, uh,
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free or cheap and then decide they
really wanna graduate to the next
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level of podcasting. So yeah, we talked
to a lot of those people and, uh,
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I've been moving them this week already
moving people from various other
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hosts and, and whatnot. And, uh, just,
just generally, uh, you know, a lot of,
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lot of questions of, you know, kind
of a consulting, like thing I, I got,
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those are kinda my.
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Favorite conversations. Yeah.
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It was great. You know, they, people were
telling me what they wanna try to do,
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and then we try to figure out how to make
it happen for them. And, you know, I,
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I, I don't know. It was
great. And, you know,
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every time I go to one of
these things, I see of course,
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a ton of people that I
know. Yeah. You know,
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that's kind of the family reunion part
of it. Mm-hmm
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uh, I run into a lot of people that I
don't know, and I've never seen before.
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And, uh, and a lot of companies
booths and stuff that, you know,
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were never there before. And
some that were there, you know,
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in years past aren't there now. And
it it's, it's just kind of fun to,
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to see the evolution of,
uh, of what's going on.
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I did notice also there was
a lot more presence from big,
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bigger corporate podcasters, uh,
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or podcast companies.
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The, yeah. The, the
organizations behind it.
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Yeah. That, that whole upstairs hall,
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there was just full of huge companies
that like, dang, you know, they,
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know, and, uh, was it, uh, serious?
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Was there, uh, Spotify was
there daily wire was there,
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there was a bunch of big
mm-hmm
that, well, you know,
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Spotify's been there co last couple years,
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but Sirius XM had a pretty big presence
upstairs there, you know, that's cool.
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Of course, they've got a
bunch of different, uh,
brands under their wing there.
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And Amazon was there with wonder mm-hmm
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They sponsored one of
the parties. Of course,
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iHeart always sponsors the big party.
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that a couple years now, but, um,
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but it just kind of goes to show
how things have a lot of people,
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a lot of organizations, um,
were bought or consolidated.
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However you wanna think of it in the
past couple years, really joining forces,
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whether we wanted to, like people
wanted them to or not. Um, so that's.
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Consolidation, it happens.
Yeah. Uh, you know.
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Yeah. I see the good and the bad
out of many of those relationships.
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Uh, but it,
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it does make sense that they would be
starting to kind of show their show their
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faces at an event like
this more nowadays. And,
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and going back to that article we had
before of, you know, 30% growth by 2026,
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like, this is, this is
part of the reason why.
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That's, how it happens.
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And one thing I did notice that
apple had a more public presence
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there. They didn't have a
booth or anything, but, uh, I,
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I seen a lot more of the apple team this
time than, uh, we have in years past.
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And I mean, we might also see that more
up close because they know our faces.
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Oh.
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Of course. But, you know, but,
but you know, it was, yeah,
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probably to the average attendee,
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they probably didn't know if they were
talking to somebody from apple
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Yeah. But, uh, you know, of course
we had a, we had a meeting with 'em.
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We always meet with 'em at least once, uh,
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at these events that they're
at mm-hmm
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and you Todd and I had a little little
meeting about something upcoming that's
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been announced, uh, that's gonna be
happening this fall, which would be cool.
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And we talked a little
bit about their, uh,
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RSS update or their requirements
update RSS isn't updating, but, uh,
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Apple's requirements are updating,
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which is gonna cause the rest of the
industry to sort of follow along,
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which is good, you know, cuz.
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As it always does.
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Yeah. Cuz they, they are sort of the
leader of this. I mean they don't own it,
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but they, you know, they definitely, uh,
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drive some of the technical stuff and
it was really good that they're talking
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with, uh, Dave and Adam from uh,
podcast 2.0 mm-hmm
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or podcast index. So, uh,
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maybe we'll get some of that stuff
supported by apple. That would be awesome.
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But yeah, overall I think it was a, a
worthy show, a Cho got her first, uh,
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trade show experience.
And uh, she did, she did,
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she did really well and she dragged
me off to a couple of booths. Oh,
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check this out. Oh, check that
out.
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I've been playing with that
E cam live thing, but uh,
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it wasn't ready for prime time yet.
So we're not trying it this week,
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but UHS pretty.
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Soon and we will soon.
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Yep. So soon look for that.
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Uh that'll that'll up our video game
for, uh, for live. So let's see,
416
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,080
Todd's gonna be at dragon
con this weekend in Atlanta.
417
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,240
He's probably on a plane now. Uh, yeah,
I believe so. From, from Las Vegas,
418
00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:26,600
he had another event in Las Vegas
this week. That's why he is not here.
419
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,080
Traveling, man.
420
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:32,280
Yeah. He's been on the road.
It'll be two, two full weeks.
421
00:23:32,410 --> 00:23:33,640
By the time he gets home.
422
00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:36,720
So either he is gonna be ready
to sit still or you want,
423
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,720
he is gonna ready to jump on another
airplane and go on vacation. Maybe.
424
00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:42,920
I don't know.
425
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,640
Sounds like he deserves a vacation.
426
00:23:45,460 --> 00:23:49,680
Yes. Yes. It's the first day of
international podcast day month.
427
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,760
Is it such a thing?
428
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,960
go ahead and say that there is Mike,
429
00:23:54,030 --> 00:23:57,160
I saw it on, I saw someone mention
it on Twitter and I was like,
430
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,400
that's a great thing to say.
431
00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:59,290
432
00:23:59,290 --> 00:24:04,160
So the international podcast day is
back for a live stream this year,
433
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,840
but they're gonna do a reasonable eight
hours instead of a ridiculous 32 hours.
434
00:24:08,890 --> 00:24:09,640
So.
435
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,160
Honestly, very understandable.
436
00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:14,080
And I don't know if we're gonna
be involved in that and or not.
437
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,840
I think we probably will in
some way or another. And uh,
438
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,040
but yeah. Look for that at, uh, gonna
be on the, I believe the 30th, right?
439
00:24:23,290 --> 00:24:23,840
Uh, yes.
440
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,840
Yeah. So it'll be on the 30th.
It'll be more information.
441
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,440
We'll talk about it coming
up to it cuz you know,
442
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,720
Steve and Dave are good friends of the
show here, so we'll definitely, uh,
443
00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:38,320
promote that whether we're
involved or not. Yeah. Big fans of.
444
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:38,670
Them.
445
00:24:38,670 --> 00:24:42,240
Yeah. Definitely something else I
was gonna mention. Yeah. There's a,
446
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,640
there's another podcast day
Australia and podcast day
447
00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:51,840
for, uh, UK. It's gonna be like
in the first week of October,
448
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,960
I'll have more information
about that as well.
449
00:24:54,010 --> 00:24:58,360
So there's more people getting into
that sort of around this time of year
450
00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:59,280
podcast day.
451
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,200
this time of year, but that's okay.
452
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:07,400
Well it's Steve and Dave. They
well
453
00:25:07,570 --> 00:25:12,160
So I got a, a pro tip here from
Toby. So, uh, let's listen to that.
454
00:25:17,130 --> 00:25:19,520
Hi, it's Toby Goodman here today.
455
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,840
Podcast content problems
through the lens of Elton John,
456
00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:27,800
when a VIP podcasting client flew from
the USA into London telling me she wanted
457
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,720
to see Elton John, I knew I
needed to get a few tickets,
458
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,400
especially when I discovered he was
playing just up the road from my home.
459
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,480
But honestly I was concerned Elton isn't,
460
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,760
someone I'd paid too much attention
to in the last 25 years or so.
461
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:45,480
And the videos of him playing during
lockdown suggested he might be past his
462
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,160
best, but to cut to the night
of the show, I was blown away.
463
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,760
The show was amazing. I had
the best time he sang well,
464
00:25:52,940 --> 00:25:56,200
but what was most impressive
were the production values,
465
00:25:56,410 --> 00:26:00,600
an ACE band with arrangements sensitively
supporting his vocal limitations,
466
00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:05,600
coupled with a production crew who
made his old songs sound fresh.
467
00:26:06,030 --> 00:26:08,680
Unlike these stay at home
restrictions of COVID.
468
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,560
This was a real team effort looking
around the place tens of thousands of
469
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,640
people were clearly
feeling the same as I was.
470
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:19,520
What's all this got to do with
podcasting. Well, I get that.
471
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680
You might sometimes have concerns
about generating new content,
472
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,240
but I've come to learn that
it's okay to repeat your ideas.
473
00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:29,320
I may have discovered Elton
John many decades ago,
474
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,600
but I was genuinely
enthused to hear songs.
475
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,080
I was familiar with being performed
with a slightly different approach.
476
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:39,520
The environment I was in was
new, his tempo and tone changed.
477
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:42,760
The truth is it's impossible
to sing the same song.
478
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,720
Exactly the same more than once and
side note in an episode entitled
479
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:51,400
Parais of Malcolm Gladwell's
revisionist history podcast,
480
00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:56,120
he shares a story about how Elvis only
ever sang are you lonesome tonight
481
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,640
correctly. Once anyway, back in London,
482
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,200
Elton reinforced my belief that these
songs were well crafted and I was happy to
483
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,160
hear them in a new context,
484
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,760
great artists learn that playing the
hit is a great way to create a long and
485
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,593
prosperous career.
486
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:15,040
And I'm pretty sure podcasters could
learn a thing or two from that.
487
00:27:15,430 --> 00:27:18,320
This isn't about me convincing
you to like Elton John.
488
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,720
This is about me letting you know
that if you have a position as a
489
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,760
podcaster, don't worry
about running out of ideas.
490
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,360
Listeners come and go and may
not have heard you early stuff.
491
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:33,840
You have a responsibility to your
listener and yourself to be able to convey
492
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840
your message in a number
of different ways.
493
00:27:36,210 --> 00:27:41,000
So maybe it's not more ideas you need
just more ways to communicate and
494
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,833
connect them.
495
00:27:42,010 --> 00:27:46,200
So if you are looking for the podcast
equivalent of Elton John's band and
496
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,760
production team, to make sure your
podcast makes your listeners ears dance,
497
00:27:50,020 --> 00:27:52,760
the blueberry pro team
are your perfect choice.
498
00:27:52,780 --> 00:27:55,680
And we'd love to hear
from you come and say hi
499
00:27:55,790 --> 00:27:58,520
over@blueberrypro.com.
500
00:28:04,510 --> 00:28:07,760
Yeah, that makes sense. Uh,
we, we do that a lot here.
501
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:12,080
We'll talk about the same
things, but in a different way,
502
00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:13,680
uh, quite a bit.
503
00:28:14,190 --> 00:28:16,440
It's just like how ads
work. You have to hear.
504
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,720
'em a certain number of times
before they really click in.
505
00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:23,080
Yeah, that's true. And you know,
there's always new people coming in and,
506
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,720
and people dropping off and
mm-hmm,
507
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,920
they may not have heard this particular
tip that we would give out. And uh,
508
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,480
you know, of course, you know, sometimes
we call it beating a dead horse,
509
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,640
but that's because we're here every
week, you know
510
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,760
not everybody is.
511
00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:42,840
Yeah. I loved that. Elton
John analogy though.
512
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,640
And it's a good thing that I muted myself
while listening to that, because one,
513
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,600
I had a coughing fit and two, I almost
spit out my tea when he said Elton John.
514
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,193
515
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:53,680
Well done. Toby.
516
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,800
Yeah. And I liked the, uh, in Elvis
too. Never sang that song right.
517
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,240
Once or only sang it once. Right.
Probably when you recorded it.
518
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:08,280
And uh, the question of the week
and this one came from Facebook,
519
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,600
I don't remember who, but uh,
520
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,640
she said my recording is getting
a lot of background noise.
521
00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:18,280
How do I reduce the background
noise coming into my microphone?
522
00:29:19,020 --> 00:29:23,280
The main thing is to not record any
background noise. And I, you know,
523
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:28,160
that sounds kind of simple, doesn't it?
Uh, but
524
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:33,080
that'll help, uh, make sure you're in the
quietest place you can be now. You're,
525
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:33,960
you're kind of, uh,
526
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,960
you're in our studio and apparently you're
doing construction next door
527
00:29:38,170 --> 00:29:38,710
so.
528
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:42,000
Yeah, they stopped. But when
I was going through the drama,
529
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,200
that is this studio at the
beginning, when I first got here, um,
530
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,520
there was a lot going on. I have a
feeling, they took a launch break.
531
00:29:48,590 --> 00:29:52,160
Well, that's good. So, uh, we, we timed
it. Right. That's the other thing,
532
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,200
time it right.
533
00:29:54,230 --> 00:29:55,080
Yeah. Good.
534
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Point. You know, if you know, you know,
535
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,600
if you got someone mowing your
lawn or something, uh, you know,
536
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,720
or there's construction going on, wait
till they take a break, if you can,
537
00:30:03,820 --> 00:30:07,920
you know, sometimes you can't, but
uh, but do do the best you can.
538
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,960
Don't blame your neighbors.
539
00:30:10,410 --> 00:30:10,870
No.
540
00:30:10,870 --> 00:30:15,560
I saw some terrible TikTok the
other day or something that was
541
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,880
about, um, the people
upstairs getting yelled at,
542
00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:22,480
by their neighbors down below who
are podcasters. And they were like,
543
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,000
I'm we have to live our lives, you're
recording. And like, uh, run the mill,
544
00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:29,400
not fancy apartment building.
I don't know what you expected.
545
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,320
Like you're gonna have
some noise around you.
546
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:35,680
Yeah. And you know, that, that does
happen, but there's things you can do,
547
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,200
you know? Yes. Like, you know, turn off
anything with a fan. It, if you can,
548
00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:43,360
you know, now a lot of people have
computers with loud fans. Well,
549
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160
just make sure that's behind your
microphone and not, you know,
550
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,680
not in front of it, turn off your air
conditioning, if you can, you know,
551
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,080
if you're not gonna roast, you know, any
other noise producing things, you know,
552
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,760
that's one of the reasons I don't have
a refrigerator in my office because the
553
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,560
damn things make noise.
554
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,640
Mm-hmm,
don't sit next to a window.
555
00:31:02,930 --> 00:31:04,960
If you live on the street, like I do.
556
00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:09,080
Yeah. Or, you know, you can soundproof
behind you is the best place,
557
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,560
but you know, around,
if you can, you know,
558
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360
hang a blanket up behind you
when you record that's, you know,
559
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,840
if you don't have a permanent way of
noise proving or make sure your background
560
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,760
has like a bookshelf and some
books on it and you know,
561
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,600
something that's just not a flat wall.
562
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:26,800
The beloved podcast Fort it works.
563
00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:29,240
Yeah. And then, uh, you know, of course,
564
00:31:29,370 --> 00:31:32,440
if you're in a room that
doesn't have carpet, get a,
565
00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:37,040
get a rug to stick under under your chair
and yeah. You know, and all that, uh,
566
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:41,400
you know, just, or, you know, close
curtains or blinds on windows, if you can,
567
00:31:42,130 --> 00:31:45,440
uh, that'll uh, help it,
not bounce off the glass.
568
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:48,840
And, uh, that's the beauty of
podcasting. It doesn't have to be pretty.
569
00:31:49,250 --> 00:31:51,960
No, it doesn't have to be perfect
either. You know, you know,
570
00:31:51,980 --> 00:31:55,000
I'm sure you've heard little background
noises here and there, you know,
571
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,760
I have I'm in the single worst place
on the planet to podcast I'm next to a
572
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:00,880
coast guard air station.
573
00:32:00,930 --> 00:32:05,120
So I get helicopters flying over mm-hmm
574
00:32:05,130 --> 00:32:09,640
uh, I'm near the bay. So I get jet
skis. I get I'm on a five lane road.
575
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,600
I've got train tracks here. You
know, I got all kinds of things,
576
00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:17,600
but I think my recordings
usually sound pretty decent. You.
577
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,560
Do you make it work? Because.
578
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,440
I made, you know, I've made some
changes in the room here that, uh,
579
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,240
that helped the quietness a bit.
So, and another thing, uh, you know,
580
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,440
if you still have some noise, whatever,
581
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,880
turn the gain down on your recording
system, your microphone, and, uh,
582
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,800
get closer to it. Uh, and then you can
always boost it in postproduction. Uh, I,
583
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,760
I use a phonic, uh,
584
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,280
if I have to do that or I do
use APH phonic anyway, but, uh,
585
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,280
and if you have a dynamic, Mike, use
that instead of any condensers, you know,
586
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,000
if you have a definitely you
have a blue snowball, well,
587
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,800
you're kinda on your own on that.
588
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Just turn the gain way down and get up
close to it. But, uh, you know, try,
589
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,040
try to, you know, get a,
590
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,960
a dynamic which definitely rejects
extra noise a bit better than,
591
00:33:04,030 --> 00:33:08,280
than a condenser. And a little bit of
ambiance doesn't hurt a thing. You know,
592
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,800
like last week you could hear
the show floor a little bit,
593
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,760
even though we were in a
supposedly soundproof booth,
594
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:17,560
but you could still hear stuff going
on out on the floor. And, uh, mm-hmm,
595
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,240
were on location. You know, if an,
596
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,000
if a helicopter flies over, I'm not
gonna stop recording. It just, you know,
597
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,040
Hey, this helicopter just flew over,
you know, stuff happens. It's not a,
598
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,560
not a big thing. And then sometimes
you just can't help it. So, you know,
599
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,440
do what you do your best, but,
uh, doesn't have to be perfect.
600
00:33:35,810 --> 00:33:39,320
So I think that brings us to a close here.
601
00:33:40,090 --> 00:33:43,640
On a good note, too, that do your best,
but it doesn't have to be perfect. Just,
602
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,280
you know what, Mike, you're just
giving out life advice right now.
603
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,160
Not just podcast.
604
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,920
Advice. True. Well, you
know, it is what it is.
605
00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:53,040
So.
606
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Also life advice, just less, uh,
less with a positive spin. There.
607
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,880
Don't wanna be Debbie downer
here.
608
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,400
that's the thing about podcasting. It's,
it's not professional all the time.
609
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,920
We're technically a
professional podcast company.
610
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,400
And my first 20 minutes in the office
today, I was like, ringing my hair out,
611
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,760
trying to figure out what was
wrong with a stupid studio.
612
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,480
613
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,200
But doing my best, I got it to.
614
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Work. Yes. And it, you know, you
sound good, but like I say, you know,
615
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,200
sound quality is very
important, but you know,
616
00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:29,800
if you can only do so much
anyway, uh, let's, uh,
617
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,360
close this up and get outta here.
618
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:34,560
Okay. If you have got a question
you'd like us to answer on the show,
619
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,240
please drop us an email to
mike@blueberry.com. It can be audio, text,
620
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:41,240
video doesn't matter. And we may use it.
621
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:45,680
You can also post a question
on the blueberry podcasting
Facebook group that we
622
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,130
have.
623
00:34:46,130 --> 00:34:47,000
Of course, uh,
624
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,040
the blueberry podcasting Facebook group
is not the best place for support.
625
00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:56,160
The best place is, uh,
at blueberry.com/support.
626
00:34:56,420 --> 00:34:59,560
You know, give us the
whole team access to,
627
00:34:59,610 --> 00:35:02,000
to that rather than direct emails, calls,
628
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,040
or social media posts have been
having a lot of those lately.
629
00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:09,000
And speaking of voice, excuse me.
630
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,680
week from I'm in the blueberry studio in
631
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,680
Columbus, Ohio and Mike Dell's world
studio at traverse city, Michigan.
632
00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:22,840
And thanks again to the blueberry pro
production team for producing editing,
633
00:35:23,060 --> 00:35:24,640
and making us sound much,
634
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640
much more professional than we
actually are in this episode today.
635
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,000
us sound smarter. Anyway,
636
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,960
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637
00:35:35,250 --> 00:35:38,920
insider, and that lets us
get to know you even better.
638
00:35:39,260 --> 00:35:42,120
And if you would like to
schedule a one on one with Todd,
639
00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:46,480
this is for hosting customers only
you can email him@toddblueberry.com.
640
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,440
Yeah. He does little 30 minute,
uh, consults with people. So, uh,
641
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,040
mm-hmm
take advantage of that.
642
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,880
There's not very many CEOs of podcast
companies that, uh, will do that.
643
00:35:56,970 --> 00:35:58,400
So very cool.
644
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,800
And then you can always schedule a tech
checkup with me also hosting customers
645
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,360
only you can email Mike blueberry.com
and if you're not a hosting
646
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,720
customers, then, then we'll, uh,
make that into a sales pitch.
647
00:36:10,980 --> 00:36:14,440
And if you would like to
send us your podcast sticker,
648
00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:18,920
we will send you some back.
So send me a self address,
649
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,360
stamped envelope, and I'll send you back
whatever it can fit inside envelope.
650
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,080
Yeah, we got the mailing address
will be in the show notes. Of course.
651
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,040
And Mackenzie takes care of that. She'll
send you some, uh, some cool stuff and,
652
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,800
uh, yeah, our water bottles really
were hit at the, uh, show last week.
653
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,240
So yes.
654
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:38,010
They were.
655
00:36:38,010 --> 00:36:42,000
So I got one of them and, uh,
I haven't used it yet. It's uh,
656
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,680
it's soaking right now, so
Anyway, everybody have a good week.
657
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:51,120
I'm not sure what's happening next
week. I think Todd will be back, but uh.
658
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,040
Well we're all gonna be
out for labor day. Yeah.
659
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,040
We're gonna be out for Monday
mm-hmm
660
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:59,560
back at it Tuesday and, uh, Thursday,
661
00:36:59,630 --> 00:37:03,600
I think Todd will be in and we'll
probably have the, the live on Facebook,
662
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,480
but I don't know. And, uh,
663
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,920
Cho and I are gonna be working
on the E cam live stuff. So, uh,
664
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,520
look for some cool video
content coming soon.
665
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:12,920
Sounds like fun. All.