How vs. Who – PCI 322

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Hey everyone. Welcome to Podcast Insider.
My name is Todd Cochran. Of course,

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I'm joined by my cohost, Mr.
Mike Dell. Mike, how you doing?

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Hey, doing good. Uh,

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nice week off for the podcast
and, uh, Thanksgiving holiday,

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got all fed up and I think I'm recovered.

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And now it's the mad dash
to Christmas. And, uh,

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we've got lots of talk about
on the show today. Of course,

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we've got some podcasting news, which,
you know, has actually been kind of slow.

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We've got a best practice lots going
on at Blueberry. I mean, we're busy.

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Uh, we've got a,

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a blueberry pro tip and we
have a question of the week,

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but let's go ahead and jump into the news.

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It's been announced a
podcast show. London is back.

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We kinda knew it was
gonna be on May of 2023.

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Yep. That's gonna be, uh, I
forget what exact days. Yeah,

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they're gonna have the podcast show.

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The actual expo is the
24th and 25th of May,

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and the podcast show live,

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which I guess they have a lot of
live performances and whatnot. Uh,

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is the 22nd through the 28th?
So, uh, the listener side is,

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is a longer event it looks like.

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Yeah. The live events are all over.
It's not in the same venue, so,

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uh, probably the event a podcaster
wanna go see is not the live piece,

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but the actual exposition again,
I think you said 24th and 25th.

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I may be there for that event.
Haven't decided yet. So, uh, yeah,

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good Gonna be, uh, year two
of this event. You know,

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everyone's talking about Twitter,
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Twitter is been at all time high
from an engagement standpoint

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cuz everyone's over there watching
what's happening or watching the action.

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But there was this post on the podcast,
so saying, the death of Twitter,

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what does it mean for podcasters? And
last I checked, Twitter's still alive,

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so I don't understand
why everyone's on this.

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The depth of when a product
is working perfectly fine.

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Yeah, the product's working fine,
what he goes into, there's, you know,

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a lot of the advertisers are pulling
out for political reasons or whatever

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reason. And, and, uh, you know, there's
saying it's not sustainable. But, uh,

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you know, I I think Elon
has proved himself a pretty
good businessman, so we'll,

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we'll see how it goes. But the other
thing he was getting at is, you know,

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for the last several years,

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a lot of new podcasters really don't
use Twitter to promote their show,

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to grow their show, to put
out anything. You know, they,

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they lean more on Instagram and
Facebook and stuff like that.

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And Eva goes into a
little bit about, well,

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is social media really the place to
promote your show anyway? For some, yeah.

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You know, some maybe not. Well.

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Where else they gonna promote it these
days? Because let's be kind of frank,

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um, you know, I run, I have a tech show,

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so my audience is on Twitter. That's
where my tech show audience hangs out.

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So I think content creators
have to understand where,

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where does their audience hang
out? And I think the key is,

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and maybe the biggest takeaway and the
one thing that they're right about in

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there is maybe podcasters should start
controlling where the conversation is

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that they have with
their audience. You know,

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maybe they should start thinking about
having something on their own website.

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You know, some sort of
social interaction there.

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I know a lot of people
ran over to Mastodon,

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but it's kind of funny because Mastodon
is a type of a system where you

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have to specific follow someone,
or you're not gonna see the thread.

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It's not this ongoing conversation per se.

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Yeah. It's not really like
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your tweets can be seen by
pretty much anybody. Right. Uh,

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with Mastodon you have to specifically
pick who you wanna follow or what, uh.

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Topics and that type.

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Of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Topics and
whatnot. It's a neat service,

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but it's no replacement, no. For Twitter.

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No, not at all. And I, and I
think some people are leaving, uh,

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Twitter because of whatever political
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safe or something to that
effect. But I've always said,

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if I don't like what someone has to say,
I just kinda move on or I block them,

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you know, and, and, and
be done with it. Yeah.

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It's like if I see a threaded conversation
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be part of, or it goes
against something I, you know,

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something that the way I feel,
I just block it. It's easy.

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It gets outta my thread
and I kid moving on,

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I find the conversation I have
on Twitter to be very valuable.

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There's lots of podcasters over
there talking about podcasting,

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lots of questions being asked. So for
me it's about being able to help and,

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and then at the same time do have.

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I get some of the news for, for this
show through Twitter. Yeah. You know,

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Twitter threads about something that,
uh, doesn't really make the, uh,

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the rounds in the podcast media. And.

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Some people have left Twitter now because
they just don't like Elon anymore.

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So Yeah.

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But that's not a reason to leave a
social platform where your audience

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potentially,

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but now if you have audience on Instagram
or Facebook or LinkedIn or wherever it

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is, go. But if you're gonna leave.

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That's what I was getting at.
You know, like Spotify, you know,

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certain shows do really well on Spotify
cuz they have a certain demographic over

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there that is different than some
demographics of the other apps.

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And.

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But, but you don't build audience on
Spotify. You don't build community,

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you have listeners over there.

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So podcasters need to really
start thinking about where
they're building their

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community and um, you know, we,

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we have set up a blueberry.chat
Macon server initially

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internally for blueberry team members,
but at some point we may open it up to,

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to blueberry customers. Matter of fact,

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I think we've got it set up now that
if you go over there and sign up for

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blueberry.chat and we will
validate whether or not you
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and allow you in there if you, you
wanna try that. But then again, it is a,

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it's not a replacement
for normal social media.

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We find it a place to be able to have
a conversation about what's going on in

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podcasting and podcasting
conversations. But.

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You know, the nice thing
about it's federated.

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So if you have a Mastodon anywhere,

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you can follow people on other mastodons
if you know their address, you know,

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it's like, I think I'm at
Mike blueberry.chat, you know,

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if you wanna follow over there
and Yep. Then I'll see your toots,

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I guess they call 'em.

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Yep. And if you don't wanna be on
there, you don't wanna be on there.

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It's just the way it is. Mm-hmm.
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so there's the article about
the genesis of podcasting,

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a long lost article that Adam Curry
had put up from January ray of

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2001,

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where he was talking about this
conceptual idea about media delivery.

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So, um, if you wanna look at
the forethought on what Adam,

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which led him to Dave and the conversation
that they had and how podcasting

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really kind of got created That, uh,
that article is there. Think about that.

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The, I don't know where Adam found it,
but he said, oh, the long loss article.

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He found it somewhere.

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Yeah, yeah. Somebody found it and,
uh, and Adam gave permission for, uh,

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James to put it on Pod news. Yep.

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So he has both the text version
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of that original article and, and yeah,

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that we owe podcasting to the
pod father and Dave Wener. Yep.

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Both of them.

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So Adobe has added a free mic
checker online. So what does this do?

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Yeah, you have to sign up. You have
an Adobe account for any other reason.

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You can, but it's free.

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But what's cool about it is you hit
start and which once you're logged in

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and it tells you what to read,

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it's just a sentence and then you
hit stop test and it'll tell you if,

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if it thinks you've got too much
echo or if you too close to the mic

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too far away from the mic, your
gains set too high, too low. Uh,

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it's pretty slick. It comes
up with a little chart.

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So you have a, obviously you have to have
a USB mic to do this then, huh? Well.

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Or you know, in my case I got it
through the road caster in the computer,

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but yeah, if you're mic is connected
to your computer, you can use the best.

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Right. Oh, cool.

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So pretty cool.

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All right. There's an article out
by Digit Day and it's kind of,

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it's a little complicated if
you're not following this. It says,

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as aass as Purpose driven ads,

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face challenges this holiday,

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could podcasting provide a lip
and as purpose driven really is

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buy this Red Bull and go
snowboarding, drink coke,

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and have a refreshing day. It's
basically, it's a, it's a purpose driven.

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So in other words, you're gonna buy
a car to go drive to the mountains,

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or you're gonna go buy a, a floor
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It's as purpose driven
ads. So apparently those,

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those type of ads are having
challenges and because of the

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tightening economy, those
purpose driven, in other words,

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you're gonna go have fun,

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you're gonna do something aren't working
as well because people are being real

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tight under budget. So it's more about
function over purpose at this point.

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So they think podcasting may have
an ability to fill in for Summit,

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but then again, people have to buy
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So we'll see. But yeah, it's,
it's an interesting analysis,

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but Apple's chose their podcast
of the year and it's Slow Burn

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Roe versus Weight, that
particular podcast. So I, I,

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I never listened to it, but I
guess it was pretty popular.

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Yeah, apple just kind of started doing
this with their, uh, you know, their,

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their kind of handpicking things
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and that they like and, and
uh, it's pretty cool. You know,

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slow Burn is the first one.

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Lots of show disappeared from
Spotify this week, including my,

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one of my shows it was a bug at Spotify
should be corrected now, is that true?

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Hmm? Where did we see that.

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News? Yeah, I was reported today
that uh, they found a bug and uh,

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indeed new media show is back. Oh.

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That's interesting. So.

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A system bug over there.

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Ah, because we could see it via the
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the search. Yeah. It wasn't
available. If it was, if was,

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if it was already in the library I could
see it, but, well good they got that,

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that bug fixed. So, uh, I.

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A lot of people do use
Spotify for podcasts. Uh,
you know, I personally don't,

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but we check it .
Yeah. And it's indeed back.

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I was told by someone else I couldn't
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cuz I don't ever even use the app.
Our best practice when changing your,

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oh boy, this is a big one.
Listener buddy ,

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when changing your website URL and the
Lord buying a new domain name or building

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a new website, be careful it could
be an extinction event for your show.

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Every couple of weeks I'll
get somebody that said, Hey,

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I either I redesigned my website
and a minute they say that. I said,

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okay, did you go away
from WordPress? Oh yeah,

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I redesigned it on W and
why is my feed not working?

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Right.

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Okay. That's one, one scenario.

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The other scenario is they
had a WordPress site domain a,

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whatever that domain is,

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and then they built a new site with a
new domain and changed the name of the

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podcast, got rid of the old domain,

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and wondered why their new episodes
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suspects. The problem was
there was no redirect.

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Yeah. So the feed was essentially
gone. If you were at, as an example,

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your show.com/feed/podcast and you changed

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your domain name to my
show.com/feed source podcast,

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well guess what?

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That URL is no longer accessible if
you did not do a redirect from the

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old URL to the new,

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which requires you to have
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domain name still on a hosted account
to be able to redirect it at least for a

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period of time. You can't.

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In the case of this
person here, you know, he,

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he just had to buy the domain back for
a year and map it to a hosting plan

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and.

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For a little while to get it moved over.

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Yeah. Then we made a redirect and he,
you know, he is back up and running.

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But the thing is,

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is say you went from WordPress
to Squarespace, okay,

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so you still have that domain, right.

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But the URL is different.

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URL is different for the feed. Yeah.

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And there is a way to do that
inside of some of those platforms,

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but some of them don't know how to
do it. You know, in other words,

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think of your RSS feed as
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podcast.

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If it was a radio station
and if you're on 90.7 FM

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we're moving. You could do the same
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we'll hopefully redirect it, but you
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and we'll make sure you get squared away
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to moving so you do not have
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they're all excited to move and then
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All right. Blueberry News,

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blog post up Leaning into
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So what's this article
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adult material in there or you know,
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like a comedian, you know,
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but you have to be honest
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there's certain countries where you
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so you're not gonna be exposed to
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if that's something you wanna do.

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definitely check that
out@podcastinsider.com. You'll
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Canada, a host,

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a podcast that brings together
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We are excited to feature them and love
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the Food Garden Life Show.

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the Food Garden Life Show sounds
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congratulations for being
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have coming. So definitely check that
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and see what we've got on the development
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you as, as new products and
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over@podcastindex.org, but
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but just know that it's gonna bring
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wanting for years that you were
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in 2005 when Apple came in,
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There's a new services too. So
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what the advantage is, um, why you
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your show settings and provide
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essentially automated data that's
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some of these new cool features,
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The thing that we wanna stress is
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but we're gonna show you why it's
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you know. Yep. Hopefully, uh,
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we'll keep eye on the blog, keep, we're
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those types of things to kinda lay it
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I think we've got a blueberry
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Do. So, uh, this is, uh,

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Toby from our pro team Who versus How.

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Hi, it's Toby Goodman here. As
podcasters, we often ask ourselves,

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how, how will I find out
what microphone to buy?

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How will I set up my computer? How
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How will I ensure my podcast can be
found? How will I find the right guests?

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How will I know what to ask? How will
I get my guests to share the podcast?

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How will I incorporate my
podcast into my website?

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And so on and so forth.

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And despite messages from the industry
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it still can be overwhelming.
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podcasting done right does
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So rather than ask yourself how,
what happens when you ask yourself,

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who, who will help me find
out what microphone to buy?

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Who will I trust to store my content
so it doesn't get ripped off?

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Who will teach me how to
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Changing how to, who still needs
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immediately decreases anxiety levels.

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When we try to do everything ourselves,
life gets hard at best, we get stressed,

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and at worse we miss
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The rule of just because you
can doesn't mean you should,

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can still very much
apply With your podcast,

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you'll find a much more in depth
analysis of why and how I'm a fan of

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this approach. If you read or
listen to Dan Sullivan's book,

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who Not how the combination
of the tech tools,

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the real human phone support at
Blueberry and Blueberry Pro production is

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the best answer to hundreds
of your who questions.

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The result being you get your time back
so you can focus on the elements of

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podcasting you love safe,

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the knowledge your podcast tech and
production needs are looked after.

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So to meet your next
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head over to blueberry.com
and blueberry pro.com.

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Thanks Toby for that. We
appreciate it and all good points.

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Appreciate your tip of the
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No, I think, uh, I think he
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A lot of times we worry about how to do
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ask the right person. So
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we've had some great questions recently
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struggling on some pieces of stuff
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you just have to ask.

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And we've got a great team here that
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podcasting. So that leads us
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Is it possible to do a show with a
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company show and want experts in our
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hosting around to different
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That's what we're doing here.

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. That's right. Kind.

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Of, you know, we, uh, it's not always
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sometimes it's me and somebody else.
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I mean, you know, we switch it up and
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The thing about this show is
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so really doesn't matter who we
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the show will be familiar to our listeners
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uh, that kind of thing. But, uh, then
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might be fun. I wonder what
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who's gonna be the host? That's.

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Cool. I do think it's important to
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and it's probably good to have
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hosts will have a
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Obviously their presentation is
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but I think having a format for the
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Another idea would be to have
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Start the show and then,
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the person that's the main host for
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the main host or whoever's the
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So that's another idea.
But again, no rules.

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I think it is good to have a
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It might be important to have one person
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we don't follow that here per se. Right?
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Do what you want. Have
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I think a little bit of
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So have you got a question
like us to answer in a show?

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Drop an email to mike@blueberry.com,
audio, text or video and we may use it.

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You can also post a question on
the blueberry Facebook group.

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Yep. And of course, the best place
for support is not the Facebook group,

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but ar ripped ,

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but our tickets system at
blueberry.com/support to

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give us all a crack at it rather than
just one person if you do a direct email,

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phone call, or a Facebook post.

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So we've been coming to you this week
for the new media production Student

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Quarter Michigan and
Mike Dell's World Studio,

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traverse City Michigan produced a
course by the Blueberry Pro production

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team@blueberrypro.com.

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And you can fill out our listener survey
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You can schedule one-on-one
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And you can schedule a tech checkup
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You can send us your podcast sticker
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and we will send you a Blueberry Care
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We'll have that mailing address in
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I wanna thank you all for
listening in. Be feel,

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feel free to send your feedback,

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keep your eye on the blog and
the announcements on the website.

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Lots of fun stuff coming here.

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We'll see you next week here on
the podcast Insider, everyone.

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Take care and we'll
see you next time. Bye.

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Bye. Have a good week.