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Everyone welcome to podcast insider.

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My name is Todd Cochran and I'm joined
of course by my cohost, Mr. Mike Dell.

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Mike, how you doing?

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Oh, it's doing pretty
good. Uh, like I said,

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I need some of that red bull that you're,
uh, you're doling out there. .

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Yeah, absolutely. I tell you,
we've been, uh, putting in the, uh,

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putting in some long hours here in
preparation for really what we're,

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what we rolled out yesterday
and, uh, pretty excited.

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If you're a blueberry hosting customer,

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you have the ability now to monetize
essentially immediately. Yep.

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Make some money.

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That's right. Programmatic advertising
has been rolled out and, uh, details are,

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uh, in the dashboard. You can link to
the blog post and really to get started.

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All you gotta do is click to
make money link and you see a,

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a menu item there for programmatic
advertising, fire that up.

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They'll let you know, read
the terms of service and, uh,

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fellow some information for those of
either are on a blueberry publisher.

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In other words, you're publishing
on the blueberry dashboard only, um,

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right then and there,
boom, you're set and, uh,

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ready to go for those of
you are on power press.

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Make sure you have the latest version
of power press downloaded. And, um,

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you'll find a new tab in the setting
section of power press. It says,

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make money, click on that. And that's
gonna take you back to the dashboard,

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but the main difference is you'll
still go through the approve,

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the terms of service. You'll
still answer a few questions,

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but when you get done your
show, you'll see a sync button.

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And what that does when you hit sync
is it's going to update the links

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on your post so that they're
no longer content that

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blueberry.com or ins.blueberry.com,

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but they're gonna be mc.blueberry.com
with a whole bunch of other string

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of information, uh, there. And, um.

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Yeah. And you know, just make
sure you, you sync up and, uh,

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it'll bring you right back to
your WordPress and yep. You're on.

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And it'll do all your back episodes
as well. So that's right. You.

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Know, all your back
episodes will be monetized.

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So it really turns out the caution is
if you're a blueberry pro customer.

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Yeah. Matter of fact, we're
gonna flash a warning to you.

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If you try to enable
programmatic, excuse me,

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and you already have a, uh,

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active ad campaign with that insertion,

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those two systems do not,
and it will not work.

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Together. They don't work
together yet. I mean,

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that may be something in the
future. But, uh, as of right now,

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if you're running any ad campaigns
manually on our insertion system,

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you don't wanna do this.

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No, no. And matter of fact, it
won't allow you right to start.

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You have to deactivate all of
the added insertion campaigns

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in order to allow this to work
so you can run one or the other.

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So it's a good option for you.
You're a prosing customer.

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You're not using ad insertion
piece. Now you can go ahead and,

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and enable a programmatic.

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Yeah, you can do it by show. So
if you have more than one show,

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especially pro customers, you're,

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you can monetize the whole network or
just one or two shows, whatever you want.

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I've been running this
programmatic now for a while,

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two or three months mm-hmm
. And uh,

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this shows on we've had several others
on doing testing and what we want to

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really put out there
is you as a podcaster,

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if you have an ad that
comes across your, uh, show,

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that is basically thought, mm
you know, maybe it's not English.

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Maybe it's it's in Spanish. That's.

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Of course shared English podcast.

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Yeah. If you're an English podcast,
let us know, uh, immediately that,

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or if you can send us to
audio file with that add in,

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because one thing that you
should not hear at all,

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you should hear no companies representing
politics, gambling, religion,

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adult, alcohol, vaping, or
cannabis. Now in the future,

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we may make it available so that you
can select from like 30 different

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categories to the ones
you want to include.

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But for now you're in all categories,

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they try to match up by show type
show category, and all those things.

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They try to do a good match.

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And geo targeting as
well. So yeah, you know,

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me here in Northern Michigan I'll
get ads for Michigan and, uh,

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somebody in Texas will get
ads for Texas possibly.

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Right, right. Yeah. So you
won't, you know, again,

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and ads can change hour to hour,
minute to minute listener to listener.

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So really your audience will
have a, a, the full breath and,

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and the payment rates vary
too from hour to hour,

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really minute to minute where we're
watching some of that reporting come in.

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It's pretty remarkable. You know,

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sometimes they're running as high
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and 1112. And then you see one come in,

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maybe it's some weird hour at four o'clock
in the morning that was on the east

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coast was, you know, at
six or something like that.

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So it's really varies upon time, but
people are listening to your show.

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So it's a big step for all
blueberry hosting customers.

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And really the way I kind
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and we have a service page for this too,

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you'll be able to review is
that for shows that are smaller,

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we've worked hard over the years to
try to monetize them really in a way

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that is host endorsed, like, like
a lot of the bigger shows are,

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but those advertisements just
don't scale up. They never come.

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It's long time in between each.

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So it's pretty discouraging.
So this is a good bridge.

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So if you're a smaller show,
or even if you're bigger show,

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you don't have any inventory,
you can turn this on today,

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run it for two weeks and turn it all.
You don't have to run this continuously.

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It can be run for a short
period of time. You just really,

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all you do is enable it sync. If you're
a power press, if you're on publisher,

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that's done. All you do is opt in, opt
out, so it can be turned on and off.

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So once you're in, it's not like
you're locked into this at all.

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And we're also, you know, this is not
automatically on all accounts or anything.

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This is totally opt in. We're not
going to throw ads into your show. No,

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if you didn't ask for them.

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No. So again,

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this is something that you can opt into
and decide whether you want to try.

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And we're finding you so far
a great experience. Again,

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we've worked hard with our
partner on this and, uh,

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they are very responsive.

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Mike has a direct line to their top tech
person that if something comes across,

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that is not supposed to be firing, we
will get with them immediately and,

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and they'll kill whatever that may
be. But again, uh, we've had very,

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very big and oftentimes brands are
worried about brand safety being on

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podcast, where we're also highly
concerned about podcast, audience,

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brand safety, too.

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We wanna make sure your audiences have
a great experience with this. Yeah. Um,

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we wanna hear your feedback too,

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so you can email me directly
onTodd@blueberry.com or if
you feel something's not

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appropriate email Mike and I together,

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and you can capture that audio file
or who the advertiser was. Again,

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I don't expect it, but we're just,
you know, being forthright here,

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we wanna make sure that, uh, your
audience has the, the best experience.

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And this is quite new for
us as well. So, you know,

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we've not experienced a lot of this,
so we're, yeah. We're, you know,

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just feeling it out and I
think it'll work out great.

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Our partners in it seem to be very
responsive when anything has gone wrong.

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Mm-hmm but,
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I've been testing it now for probably
a week, week and a half. And, uh,

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haven't heard anything
too crazy on my shows.

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yeah. So, uh, and again, uh,

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we have a direct line to their top of
their tech stack. And if there's a, uh,

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there's anything that
happens, we'll, we'll be, uh,

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and here's another thing too. You're
not gonna hear an ad in every episode,

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right. This is probably
gonna be around 80% fill.

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You might not hear an ad and
your listener might, right.

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So that's just thing too is
you're not guaranteed. We,

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we expect about an 80% fill rate,

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but volume's gonna grow over
the first 60 to 90 days. Right.

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So we're gonna see how this goes, but, uh,

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we encourage you to get this turned
on and give it a try and get,

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get the money flowing payments. Uh,

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first round of payments will happen
probably 90 days after you say yes.

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So here we are, August 18th. So
it's September, October, November.

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So probably in around
Thanksgiving timeframe. Yeah. Uh,

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when you would expect the first check,
so just, you know, put some, you know,

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reality to where, you know,
how, and once they start coming,

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then they'll come every month. So,
uh, again, but we do have a minimum,

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a minimum is $50. Mm-hmm .
So when you show earns 50,

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then we'll issue and it's all via
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This is strictly a PayPal transaction.

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So you do have to have a
PayPal account to get paid.

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Yep.

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And also there can be pre-rolls
and pro post rolls or one

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or the other.

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Right. So we have heard
some post rolls, not.

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Many, not a ton, but, uh, I've heard a.

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Few to kind of be Frank the audience.

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I don't think a lot of those post
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but that's if the, a hazer wanna be in
there. So be it. All right. And, uh,

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make sure you talk to your
audience about it too, as you're,

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as you're rolling this out.

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All right. So let's go ahead and
move here to the regular news.

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Mike ads may be coming to
apple podcast. What is this?

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Yeah, Apple's looking into significantly
ramping up its ads business,

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according to Bloomberg, uh,

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the guy that's in charge
of ads or talking about,

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they wanna monetize the whole
stack, including apple podcast. Now,

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I don't know what that means, whether
it's gonna be display ads in the app,

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or if it's gonna be injected ads between
shows or something like that, but, uh,

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could be any of it.

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Hmm. Well, I'm recommending
everyone use the fountain app. Yeah,

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there you listen. The podcast,

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that's a great podcasting app and you
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the fountain app.

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And, and you can boost us.

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Now. That's right. Latino listener
report released by Edison research.

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Yes. So I went through
this extensively yesterday.

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There are some browsers in
there mm-hmm yeah.

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I think watching part of
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I think for those of you
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it shows that the Latino community are
listening to a lot of English space

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shows. So it's a demographic
that you may not be aware of.

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And there was some real Wowsers
in there in, in audience makeup.

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And I think that, uh, for any podcaster,

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it's just a good one to go through the
48 slides take, uh, 10, 15 minutes,

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if you really read through them and
understand the implications of it. Um,

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I did do an extensive review of this yet.

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And of course there's the Edison
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there demos on YouTube. And again,

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I had commentary with Rob Reley
yesterday and a new media show, but yeah,

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definitely checked this
Latino listener report out.

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So I have no information on this next one.

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What is step into the podcast bus?

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It's a, uh, mobile, uh, recording
studio. Uh, it's in a, uh,

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who it was, but yeah,

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Daniel LDE built a school
bus into a mobile recording

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studio and I mean, it's fully
equipped it. Uh, there's not a,

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a lot of pictures of it, but, uh,
it looks like, you know, it's,

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it's not a school bus. It's,
it's like a, uh, you know,

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commuter bus or something like
that, but pretty cool. Uh,

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kinda reminds me of what Michael
Mike Wilkerson did with the podcast

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bug. I don't know if you've seen that,
but it's a VW beetle that he, uh,

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brings around to different
conferences and whatnot. Uh,

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you can actually rent it
for your conference, but,
uh, I don't know this, uh,

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this bus I think is in
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Uh, yeah, it's in the general.
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is it focused on the Jewish community
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Jewish journal?

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Yeah, I think the, the, the guy that
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okay. But you know, it's actually
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Awesome. But, uh, it's pretty
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it'll tell you all
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but he's got some re twenties and it
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part of, you know, kind of in the
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it could be good for video, nice,
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kind of cool. And I'll have a
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That's kind of fun to look at.

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All right. Hey,
congratulations, James Freeland,

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pod news for me named one of the
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according to Frank Rek, I don't know
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Yeah. He's in there with about
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Most of 'em I haven't heard
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so I thought I'd just give him a call out.

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Cool. Lisson is, went on a
drunk buying spree again,

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they bought German ad company.
Juli. Yeah. So, uh, I was, uh,

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kinda curious, you know, this is like
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I can't, you know,

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most companies are lucky to do one
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It's gotta be chaos. Yeah. Over there.

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Hopefully they can pull it together
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trying to mix cultures.

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Oh my goodness. It's gotta be crazy.

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remain as they are so very,
very interesting Odyssey.

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A U D C Y has Odyssey. Layoff is
uh, touches podcasting business.

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So what happened there?

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They started, uh, laying
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cadence 13 pineapple street
to 2,400 sports studios

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and they're not gonna be exempt of
a round of company wide layoffs. So,

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wow. That's uh, not cool, but
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5% of the total workforce
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but Odyssey, uh, you know, is kind of a
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yeah. I feel, I feel for people, you
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Luckily knock on wood, uh, you know,

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our business is pretty strong and
that's not universal, you know?

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Yeah. And, and a lot of it just do with
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almost completely reliant on ad revenue
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retraction in the
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we saw this in 2008 when the
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we were still at that point, pretty
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we weathered the storm
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I don't know what's gonna happen with
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at least, you know, it's looking like
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maybe not. Well, I think we're technically
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if it's soft or hard, we don't, no, we
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but the, the situation with
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they start cutting ad dollars.

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Doesn't change anything for people
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for our customers are largely
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doing their own thing, building
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advertising is often a plus,
but not a requirement. But, uh,

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and we haven't heard any,
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a lot of people were spending the,
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May shift down to the programmatic,

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cuz it's a little bit cheaper and
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Best practice backups
have a backup strategy.

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Yes. Well.

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I found out this myself here recently.

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Yeah. I was, uh, thinking about that.
Plus I had a customer that had the,

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they wanted to migrate from their
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them that, uh,

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immediately got shut off and they didn't
have backups of their files. Wow. Yeah.

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So they.

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Canceled or they.

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They just shut 'em off said, okay,
you wanna leave? Go. Wow. Yeah. Wow.

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It not cool.

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But uh, can we say who they, were
they paying for that service? No. Oh.

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So anyway, I'll, uh, I'll
tell you about it off.

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Off. So here's the thing. If you're gonna
move and you're getting free hosting,

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don't tell 'em, you're
moving until you've moved.

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Right. Exactly. Wow. But anyway,
so as far as a backup strategy,

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make sure you keep your
media files, uh, somewhere,

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preferably somewhere in two places. Like
I said, get a removable hard drive, uh,

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you know, back 'em up there
or a thumb drive, you know,

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you can get a one terabyte,
right. A thumb drive.

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Now that's what I use and it works
great. I put all media files there.

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I swap it out with another one I
have in the safe. Uh, that's good.

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Or you can back up to
the cloud. Uh, you know,

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I don't know if Google drive or
Dropbox, if you wanna pay, you know,

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for extra storage, you could do it there.

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Or AWS has a thing called cold
storage, which you, which.

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Yeah. That's pretty geeks. Yeah.

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Yeah. That's definitely
a geeky thing. But uh,

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but definitely try to keep your
media files. Like I said, of course,

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if you're hosting with blueberry,

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we kind of already have your media
files and we're not gonna lose them.

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Hopefully.

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Yeah. You know,

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one thing that happened with me is cuz
I was one of the Guinea pigs early on

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when we, uh, started doing hosting and uh,

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back in 2008, I had some media files
that were kinda all over the place.

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Mm-hmm , you know,

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and cuz those early days were really
kind of difficult as a podcaster.

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And I discovered four or five
of my files never made it over

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on the migration.

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And the only reason I figured that out
is we were doing some testing on this

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programmatic and it gave me a report,
said these four or five files are Mia.

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So I went to my backup and I,
you know, I've got everything in,

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basically it's a,

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it's a network attached storage
device plus an external hard drive.

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But I just had to kinda remember,
okay, where's that folder.

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And I had to dig around a little
bit, but what on the, I had it.

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So I was able to pull files
those four, four files from,

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from 2008 and drop 'em on and, and
we were good. So, but that was just,

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you know, one of those fluke
things because you know, it's,

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that's what happens when
you're, you know, Mike,

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you and I kind of become the testers
of everything and we test live on our

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production stuff. So sometimes
things can go sideways.

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Right. But yeah, like I said, it's,

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it's just real important to at
least have your media files.

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Now I do another thing.
I, I back up my, uh,

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RSS feed as a text file.

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Oh, that's interesting.

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Yeah. And, and it's not hard to do. You
just, you can load it in Chrome and uh,

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in most cases you just copy all the
text, put it in a text file somewhere,

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do that every so often that way, you know,

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if something catastrophically goes wrong
with your site and you have to start

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completely from scratch. Yep. You know,

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but if you're hosting with blueberry
and you've got that all set up,

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you have a blueberry directory,

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we can actually import your feed back to
your website. Once you've recovered it,

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I've done that all the
time. So, you know, with us,

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we have that backup also for you.

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But it's because we have a directory.

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So we have a full list of everything
that we've pulled from you. Now,

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there might be a rare occasion
where something to stop pulling,

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but that's pretty rare.

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Yeah. But uh, you know, just
have a strategy, you know,

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just in case something goes sideways,
cuz no matter what platform you're on,

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what you're using, things can go.

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Wrong. Yeah. Especially when they shut
you off, when you said you're moving.

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Yeah. That's crazy. So don't tell anybody
you're moving off a free platform.

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Well, you.

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Can tell us if you're gonna move from.

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Us. We're cool. We'll keep it a
secret. Yeah. we're cool. But,

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but don't tell your current host. Yeah.

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All right. Some more
blueberry news here of Chris,

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we talked about the program
advertising at the top of the show,

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but we got a blog post out
connecting with your local community.

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This is a blog post that was put together
by Merrill one of our writers and uh,

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great article on how to connect
with your podcast community.

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But next week it's kinda crazy
around here. What are we doing? Well.

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We're heading off to, uh,

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podcast movement and we're
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new thing on Monday, which.

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That's right.

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Hopefully knock on wood,

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everybody drinks their red
bull and they're good and
we'll have it done. And uh,

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anyway, Mike me, uh, Todd
McKenzie and Cho, uh,

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will be with us there at, uh,
podcast, move us in Dallas.

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So make sure you stop by
the booth and say, hi,

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pick up some swag and
we'll be happy to see you.

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I'm doing a session. I think it's
on Wednesday. Yep. So, uh, yeah,

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it is Wednesday. So make sure you
look in your, in your menu, um,

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doing something on Friday too, doing
a live new media show on Friday, Mike,

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you've got something going on.

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Yeah, we're gonna do, uh, the show
live on the floor. Uh, there's a,

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a recording booth that I've
scheduled for us to do a show.

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Whether you'll be there or not. I don't
know, but I'll grab somebody and we'll,

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we'll put out a show, uh, probably
different format, but uh, all right.

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We will at least have something for next.

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Week. Okay, outstanding. Again, if
you're at podcast booth and say, hello,

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come by, get some swag.
We got some cool stuff.

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Gonna have a cool video
running in this booth. Uh,

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lots of festivities at podcast
move like a big family reunion. Uh,

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look forward to seeing
everyone in Dallas. But uh,

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we do have a blueberry pro tip from
Toby and let's go ahead and fire that.

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Hi there it's Toby Goodman here being
a British male of a certain age.

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I've always dreamt of living
the life of James Bond,

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knowing who's behind what and
trading in international secrets,

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the kind of secrets,

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only those with the highest
clearance levels can be trusted with.

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But obviously that never happened,
but let's face it. There's a reason.

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Some things need to be kept well
away from the public domain.

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Perhaps you like the
idea of having a podcast,

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but have always felt rather protective
of your intellectual property.

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Maybe there are legal restrictions in
your industry or simply you have no desire

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to cast your pod far and wide
now. Sure. For most podcasters,

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the idea that everyone and anyone could
be listening is the ultimate dream.

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But you are not most podcasters you're
you and maybe you just don't want or

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need to be widely identified.

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Perhaps you'd rather float
inconspicuously like Mr.

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Bond only connecting classified
information with listeners on a need to

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know basis. That's where
private podcasts come in.

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And the good news is you don't have to
be in her majesty secret service to have

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one, a few days back,

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I was contacted by a pharmaceutical
company who wanted to connect a group of

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medical professionals. They're
part of through a podcast,

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but they needed a safe place due to
strict regulation in the industry.

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They told me how much they knew a
well produced podcast would help but

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needed assurances. We could keep
the content safe and private.

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So the whole idea didn't end
up being a doctor. No go.

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But that's when I told them
about private podcasting.

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You see with a private podcast, you can
enjoy all the benefits of podcast tech,

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but narrow the distribution to those
who you choose to give a license to

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listen.

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So if you are looking at creating an
effective internal way of communicating

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with your people, perhaps it's
time to focus your golden eyes.

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Last one, I promise on a private podcast,

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safe in the knowledge you can say
this podcast is sorry about this

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for your ears.

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Only when it comes to keeping those
extra special ears listening and engaged,

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blueberry,

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private hosting gives you the Fort
NOx like levels of security while

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the pro production team give
your listeners the kind of
audio experience akin to

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a luxury holiday. If that sounds good
to you head over, come say hi to us.

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Blueberry pro.

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Thanks, Toby for the blueberry
pro tip on private podcasting.

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Great piece there let's go ahead and
move on to our question of the week.

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And here's the question it's from Ethan.

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Our podcast network started with one show.

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These days we have seven shows in network,

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but we're storing all those shows
in the same blueberry folder,

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not great for content management.

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Can we reorganize our blueberry catalog
of shows into different folders where

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that affect the URLs of the MP3s will
power press show us the new folders.

437
00:24:17,070 --> 00:24:20,520
Yeah, it's gonna be a bit of work and, uh,

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back to our backup best practice.
Uh, if you have the files,

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it's gonna make it a
little easier for you,

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cuz we're not able to
move them between folders,

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besides that we wouldn't know which
ones are, which yeah. And yes,

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it will affect the URL to the file simply
because it's gonna be in a different

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folder. So the URL will be
in a different folder. Uh,

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we have a thing called multi-program
mode inside a power press.

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And if you're have multiple
shows, you can turn that on.

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And then when you go to upload you select
which show you wanna upload to yep.

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Keeps the media separate.
It keeps the stats separate.

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00:24:56,620 --> 00:24:59,760
Now you could just pull the bandaid off
and say, okay, from here on forward,

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we're gonna do it separately. And all the
previous ones stay where they are. Uh,

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you know, I've had a few customers
do that, but uh, it's all doable. Uh,

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it depends on how much manual labor
you want to re-uploading files.

452
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Yeah. And, and your stats
can't move. Don't move. Yeah.

453
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That's the challenge is we can't move
the stats from one account to the other.

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So yeah, multiple shows.

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The best thing to do is ask Mike for
help to make sure that you're essentially

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what it is,

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is those files go into their own bucket
and it's signed to your keyword and

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that's really a big piece of it is.

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And that's why your URL will
change to your media file.

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And that's all part of the
pro stats processing. So, uh,

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it has to be in the right folder.

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I've actually recently I used to upload
geekness central audio and video to

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one folder before. And
I've switched that now.

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And largely because what I'm trying
to do is the listens to the audio

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are higher than the video. And I
want my media kit to have a higher,

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higher number on the
average downloads cuz my,

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the video would draw me down
right. In, in the average.

468
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So I've started separating mine as well.

469
00:26:07,670 --> 00:26:10,360
Yeah. Now, now you're not going
back and re-uploading all.

470
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The video are you? No, no,
no. I'm just, I draw a line,

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the sand and then moving forward.

472
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:19,400
Yeah. That's probably the best, but if
you really wanna move them, you know,

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the,

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the existing ones slightly change each
of the file names when you re-upload them

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that way it'll the, then forward,

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it'll go into the stats for
that program versus the network.

477
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That's right. And of course,

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don't forget we have subaccounts so you
can have a master count and then you can

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assign the subaccounts to your other
host so they can get access to their

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individual stats. Yeah. That's, that's
a big, big thing for pro customers.

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00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,120
And for those of you that
just have a single show,

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you can still have up to five.
Uh sub-accounts on a single show.

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00:26:49,380 --> 00:26:50,760
So let's finish up here.

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If you've got a question you'd
like us to answer a show,

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00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,480
drop an email to Mike
blueberry.com, audio, text or video,

486
00:26:56,540 --> 00:26:58,000
and we may use it.

487
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:01,440
You can also post a question on
the blueberry podcasting Facebook.

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00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,760
Group, best place for support with
any blueberry products or services.

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00:27:04,780 --> 00:27:09,320
Our tickets system tickets give the whole
team access rather than direct emails

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00:27:09,340 --> 00:27:10,173
or calls.

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00:27:10,180 --> 00:27:13,520
And of course you can go
to blueberry.com/support.

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We've been coming to you this week from
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water, Michigan and Mike Dell's
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Michigan produced by the blueberry
pro production team. Yep.

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If you did over at
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insider.

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00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:33,080
You can also schedule one on
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only emailTodd@blueberry.com.

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00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:38,960
You can schedule a tech checkup
with me, uh, hosting customers,

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00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,080
only email mike@blueberry.com.

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00:27:42,220 --> 00:27:46,160
You can always send us your
podcast sticker and a self
address stamped envelope,

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00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:48,120
and we will send you a
blueberry care package.

504
00:27:48,260 --> 00:27:50,080
And if you just send us a self address,

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00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,240
stamped envelope without a sticker in
it, we'll still send you something back.

506
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,760
The mailing address is on
the blog post for today.

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00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,640
Podcast insider.com or you bring.

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00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,640
The show Dallas we'll give
you we'll hand it to you.

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00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:04,440
Oh yeah. If you're Dallas will
give it to you. That's right.

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And we're gonna have some cool
swag there. This this go round.

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00:28:07,230 --> 00:28:08,920
It's been our pleasure
bringing the show today.

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We'll see you next week from Dallas.
Everyone. Thanks for being here.

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We'll see you next time. Take care.