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Paypal Our first big release of the year was working with Apple. We now integrate with Apple Podcast Subscription shows for easy publishing directly from the Blubrry platform.
Anyone producing a premium subscription based Apple Podcast can now publish their premium episodes directly through our platform and we’re very excited about it. Tune in to hear more on that feature as well as some cools tools in Slack and for Podcasting 2.0.
Thanks for joining us on this episode of Podcast Insider. Looking to be a guest on the show? Let us know. Emails are listed at the bottom of show notes.
News- Apple Podcast Subscriptions integrated into the Blubrry platform
- PRX using V4V in a new way
- Levar Burton is launching his first kid’s podcast, Sound Detectives
- Slack now produces a transcript if you upload an audio file. Not sure how useable it is yet, but we discovered that last week. Other chat services have this too.
- True Crime podcast listener now a murder suspect
Reach out to be a guest on your favorite podcast! We don’t mean your favorite podcast that is not relevant to insights or expertise that you can provide, but you should reach out to be a guest on a show you’re familiar with for a meaningful conversation.
Blubrry News- Lots of Podcasting 2.0 features are now in the Blubrry publisher. Learn more here and here.
- Location
- Transcripts
- Chapters
- Person
- Live Item
- TXT
- Podping
- Value (V4V) Coming very soon
- PowerPress will be updated with the same tags very soon
- Todd will be keynote speaking at Podfest Expo in Orlando Thursday and Friday – If you are in the area, we have some expo-only passes available. Reach out to MacKenzie.
- Todd will also speak at Podcast Movement Evolutions in Las Vegas in March.
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Question of the WeekQuestion:I use an AudioTechnica ATH-M50 headset for my podcasting, but I need to buy three more pairs for guests, and I don’t want to spend $200 on each pair. Can you recommend a “decent” headphone option that sounds neutral and easy to listen to for long periods of time that’s under $100?
Answer: (Mike)I have a set of Sony MDR 7506 headphones that I like a lot. They are around $80 and seem tough as well. At least I haven’t broken them yet
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Hey everyone. Welcome to Podcast Insider.
My name is Todd Cochran. Of course,
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I'm joined by Mike Cohost, Mr. Mike
Dell. Mike, how are you doing? Doing.
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Good. Welcome back. I trust you had
a good trip to, uh, Vegas for c e s.
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Yes, indeed. And of course,
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anyone that has to spend seven days in
Vegas voluntarily, you know,
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it's about four days too much. But,
uh, yeah, had a great, uh, great event,
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great show about, eh, I don't know,
about 30, 35 hours of live content. Uh,
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so we had a great time with the
tech podcast team out there. Yeah.
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Um, I've been out there a couple times
during ces and, uh, I don't envy the, uh,
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amount of time spent.
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You know, the, uh, the main thing
is it's a lot different now. We,
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we basically are official press
and we have the ability to
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work from a,
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a location where we have a workroom
and then we have a studio on top and
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security and internet. Yes.
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And it just really
intercourse with gear now
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being a lot more condensed
and not having to, you know,
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roll 20 boxes in and you just roll in
with like three suitcases and in your
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good, um, little set
up, of course. But yeah,
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I think we had a very
successful live event.
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We streamed the audio and then of course,
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all that content's gonna be converted and,
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and used in our Reg Regular podcast
as an additional episode. So, uh,
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yeah, it was, it was a good event.
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Ah, very good. Good. So, uh, yeah,
we got our normal news today.
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We got a best practice,
got some blueberry stuff,
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and we have a blueberry pro tip
and a question of the week. So, uh,
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we have the normal lineup for now.
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Absolutely.
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All right. We kick off the news
here and, uh, we've got one thing,
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it's lead in the pack is
really some blueberry news.
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We launch Apple subscriptions.
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It's now integrated on the
blueberry platform. And, uh, it's,
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it's, uh,
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the ability for you to run premium
content and not have to go directly
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to Apple to publish all that. You go
through a very simple setup process,
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and then once you're done,
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you can post your premium content
from blueberry just like you do,
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uh, a regular episode, but, uh,
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you make it available as a
subscription on Apple Podcast.
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Yeah, I've been playing with a test
account and, uh, it, it is pretty slick.
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Uh, you know, you, you publish your
regular episodes as you would regularly,
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and if you have a subscription tied
to that same show, you could do the,
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uh, premium content all in the
same dashboard at Blueberry.
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Uh, now if you're using Power Press,
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you have to come to blueberry
to publish the Apple episodes,
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but it's a very similar process
and pretty slick and, uh,
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I'm glad we got it done on time.
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You know, that's one thing
we should reiterate is the,
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this is not just for dashboard customers.
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So if you are a Power Press user,
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you can publish your premium episodes,
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even if you're a Power Press
user on the Blueberry dashboard.
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The only difference is you still
continue to do your public episodes
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on your own website.
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We were not able really to
get disintegrated within
Power Press to make it
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completely cohesive.
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So the premium stuff does have to be
published from the Blueberry dashboard,
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and what happens is you'll get a key,
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and then when you get a key from
Apple and you enter that key,
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uh, in the setting
section, it unlocks, uh,
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features that would normally be locked
on the platform for you to be able to
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publish, uh,
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to Apple directly again for the
premium or for the subscription
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episodes only for those of you
that are Power Press users.
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Yep. And, uh, like I said, it works
really slick. We've, uh, been testing it,
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uh, guys at Apple been testing it and, uh,
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I think we had a few customers
testing it, so, yep. It's, uh,
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all up and running.
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So if you're interested in doing premium
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come check it out.
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You do have to be, uh, $20 and a month
above client to do that. Okay. True. Uh,
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but that's the majority of the
clients, otherwise prx, uh,
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they announced that they're
using value for value part of the
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podcasting 2.0 spec in a new way. And, uh,
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this is kinda curious on what
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They kind of rolled their own, it
looks like, uh, uphold.com, I guess,
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is who they were working with.
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in Fiat currencies, uh,
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mostly US dollars at this
point, but it's, uh, you know,
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set up similarly, but it's only
on the web. There's no, uh,
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apps that are taking advantage of it.
So, you know, this is for a web player,
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but you can stream a penny a minute or
whatever while you're listening. Uh,
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they don't have any provisions for
boosting kinda, you know, like we do with,
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uh, the, uh, value for value
using Lightning. But yeah,
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it's a first step. I, I, I think
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NPR X is a pretty big
outfit. So we'll see.
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is one of the reasons why we're
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is if someone wants to send you a dollar,
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then you really get all these fiat
fees, you get these financial fees,
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and you may cost you 50
cents to send a dollar.
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of a dollar in the podcasting
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2.0 value for value model,
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which we're gonna be talking about a
lot in the near future for sure, is,
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is you're gonna get a dollar,
you're gonna get a dollar, and this,
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the sender pays the fee to
send that money to, but the,
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the fee might be a penny or two. Yeah.
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Versus it's definitely not what, you
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Uh, yeah. Fit 50 50 cents and
then a percentage, you know,
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so this is not, you know, this is
the challenge that you run into.
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Yes, you wanna monetize and make it
easy for people to send donations,
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but you don't want to eat that up
in fees. And I'm afraid what prx is,
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the way they're going is it's, again, it,
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it's not going to benefit the content
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it's gonna hurt them from being
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People are gonna have to send 10,
15, 20, or $25 at a single time,
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which is okay if you got
fans that will do that,
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but the value for value model,
uh, works a little bit different.
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So it's disappointing they didn't go
with the regular podcasting 2.08 that
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everyone else is adopting,
but so be it. Uh,
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they might come around a
different implementation.
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They might come around and they're using
the name space, so that's, uh, yeah.
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You know, they're actually, that's.
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A good thing.
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They're actually using the value tag
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So that's a step, you know,
one right little bit at a time.
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Luva Burton is launching his first
kids podcast called Sound Detectives,
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star Trek actor and host of Reading
Rainbow on Public TV for years.
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So, uh, LaVar is the
Voice of Sound Detectives.
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Yeah. He's gonna be, uh,
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collaborating with Julia Smith
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I'm sure I butchered that name. But, uh,
it, it's a show that's gonna, you know,
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it's four kids, but
it's gonna be kind of a,
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a drama sort of thing where
they're looking for sounds that are
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missing in the world, should be fun
for the kids. And, uh, lava's been,
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you know, doing Reading Rainbow,
of course, he was the, uh,
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actor in Roots way back in the
seventies, played Kuta Quinte. So,
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uh, he's pretty famous guy,
and, uh, good to see him, uh,
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getting into podcasting.
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found that Slack now produces a transcript
if you upload an audio file. Uh,
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we're not sure how usable it is yet,
but we discovered this last week,
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and apparently those other chat
services have this too. So, Mike,
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when you guys upload the
audio file, what did it do?
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Did it just pop a transcript
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Yeah, it was, uh, fairly quick.
Uh, Lee sent back our file,
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you know, after editing
last week for this show,
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and I look at that and there's a,
a transcript popped up underneath,
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and I scrolled through it, and it's
even time hacked. And Wow. You know,
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I don't know if you can download it or
if you can cut and paste it or what, but,
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uh, that may be another way of
getting a transcript at some point.
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I wonder if that is for premium
customers or everyone that uses Slack.
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We ought to try that on a free account.
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Yeah, I'll have to do that. Uh, but,
uh, I know on our, uh, company one,
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it worked just fine.
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So Oh, that's cool.
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Yeah, it was, uh, it was slick and,
and like I said, it was time hacked,
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so you might even be able to cut
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as another way of doing it.
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So anyway, lots of transcript stuff
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if you remember, blueberry
has a relationship, uh,
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with a transcript vendor.
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You can add that as an add-on at
Blueberry to automatically get transcripts
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for your podcast every time
you publish an episode.
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And that will show up in the Player
as a closed caption option. So, uh,
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definitely consider adding and making
your podcast accessible by getting
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transcripts created automatically
through our service, which, uh,
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is one of the top rated, uh,
transcript companies, uh, in the world.
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And the cool thing about that is you don't
have to cut and paste and do all that
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stuff. No. You just click
a button and it shows.
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Up. Absolutely.
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So tell me about this True Crime Podcast
listener that's now turned into a
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murder suspect.
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Yeah, Robin Ward, he's the host of the
True Crime Podcast. The trail went cold.
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Notice something odd when he scrolled
through a bunch of, uh, his listeners,
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I don't know how he knows the
names of the Lister listeners,
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but one of his subscribers was a, uh,
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person of interest in a 1984
case that he talked about
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on an episode back in 2017.
Hmm. Uh, yeah. So that,
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that's a little suspicious.
And I guess in April of 2019,
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the guy, the, the listener,
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made a call to investigators with
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disappearance. And, uh, anyway,
long story short, he's, uh,
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up on murder charges in
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So, uh, so yeah, he thought he would
be smarter than the police, huh? Yeah.
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they always say that the criminal
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This is kind of that mm-hmm.
, uh, he
probably was, uh, you know,
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searching through his podcast
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I know something about this one.
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Bizarre.
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Yeah. Very, very strange.
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All right. We've got a best practice, uh,
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reach out to be a guest on
your favorite podcast. Now,
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we don't mean your favorite podcast is
not relevant to insights or expertise
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that you can provide,
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but you should reach out to be a guest
on a show you're familiar with for a
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meaningful conversation.
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Yes. And, and the thing about this is,
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don't just cold email somebody
that you think might put you on
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their show without doing. You know,
don't be, don't be that person that says,
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dear, and then, you know,
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whoever and have this form
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I get those all the time, and it's like,
eh, I'm not even gonna entertain this.
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But, you know, if you've done your
homework and you know about the podcast,
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like you guys listen to
this podcast, if you, uh,
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reach out to us to be on our show,
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chances are you've already
heard the fact that we,
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we want hosting customers
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talk about something relevant to
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make sure it's a meaningful, you know,
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. So, and another thing too
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talking about getting, uh, uh,
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pitched is my tech show has no
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I love your show. It's fantastic. Ah, I
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I haven't had a guest in 18 years. Right?
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they're just doing a pitch email.
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They know relatively nothing
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just try to reach out to those shows
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Matter of fact, Mike, I was working on
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and all the things that I'm gonna talk
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I'll send you the link
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publisher. Now, some of them have
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uh, where these, where
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latest episode. So if you're normally,
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he's in Traverse City, I'm in Coldwater,
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um, located in Coldwater
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let's say we do this show at in Vegas
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we can set the episode
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if next week it's Todd and
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was. Yep. In the person tag. So the person
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at the show level and at the
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and I find that listening to an
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that I use in this case pod verse,
it's just handy, you know, for the,
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for the listener and, you
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usually I'm doing show prep for this
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I don't even have to leave my app. I
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server that I've set up. Uh,
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to be able to be, be live with your
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if you would like to do that,
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todd@blueberry.com and then I'll figure
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if you are a recording time doesn't
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asked, we'll get you on there.
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I can send you details. But this live
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this is for dashboard
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power Press will be updated soon with the
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emails from RSS feed, so
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There'll be other uses for it in the
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we're going to be removing emails at,
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in your RSS feeds at blueberry and
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so you turn it on, Google sends you an
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it auto, it basically sends a
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this show has had a brand new episode,
please update the directories.
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Ping as well to help that
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a Pod Ping will get you again, updated
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the value for value, we'll be spending
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In detail, uh, how that works,
um, what it really means,
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and really the excitement,
uh, behind it. But again,
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power Press will be updated with
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Right. And you've got some
speaking gigs coming up.
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I'm doing a 10 or 15 minute on stage
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we're doing a new media show
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if you're in the area,
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if you're in the Florida
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only pass where you can go
in and see the vendors, uh,
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we have some expo only passes
available. Again, we just wanna,
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for those of you there in within striking
business, probably Tampa, Orlando,
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yeah. That area, uh, you
want to go and see the expo,
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we have Expo passes available. Let us
just drop us in email. Yeah. Again,
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and we'll make sure you get one of those.
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. And I'm also, I was
asked to be on a panel in, uh,
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in Vegas and March for Podcast
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pro programmatic advertising panel.
So it's, uh, actually being, uh,
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moderated by, uh, Rocky over at
Sound Stack. So I'll be one of, uh,
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four people on that panel talking about
programmatic advertising at podcast
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Movement Very go. So we
have a pro tip, Mike.
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Yeah. We have one from Toby. Uh,
about first impressions in artwork.
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Hi there, it's Toby Goodman
here. First impressions.
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I grew up in a world without the internet.
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A world where when you met someone new
who didn't know anyone in your social or
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work life, first impressions
were made and received.
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The moment you met in person,
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some of you might remember
that as podcasters,
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we make impressions on people
we've never met all the time.
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But to the new potential
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it's not your podcast audio itself
that makes the very first impression.
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It's often your artwork.
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While some podcast players
display episode artwork,
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others will only display
the main album artwork.
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So using the first impression lens,
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let's focus in on that
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for scrolling potential listeners,
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the combination of how strong your show
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can mean the difference between a few
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This week,
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I was asked to review a piece of podcast
artwork of a client who's moving over
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to pro production and to the surprise of
this person who was very proud of what
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he had, I told him his beautiful
podcast album, artwork needed to go.
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Now I can agree it was a
great looking piece of art,
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but as podcast album art,
it was absolutely useless.
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While the script font writing looked
fantastic on my computer monitor,
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there was a major problem. The spelling
was fine, the show name was good,
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but once I looked at it in situ,
it was completely illegible.
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You see, in Sit, it's a thumbnail,
and that means it's thumbnail sized.
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So swirly writing just
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Even with my glasses on and my
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there was no way me or anyone
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or maybe no one in Pod listener land was
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a listener. There were other mistakes too.
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Award-winning host was a prefix.
It took up too much space.
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And what award some of you may know,
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I spent the best part of 20
years touring as a musician,
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and probably over half of those
years in my home country of the uk.
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So I've had my fair share
of curry and fish and chips,
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and you know what?
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On the wall of every single one of
those places in this country, an award,
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presumably nine out of 10
bestowed upon these people by
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themselves. So who cares? This
is not headline information.
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They had me at Curry House.
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So here's what you need for your artwork.
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Show name and maybe host
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That's it. Then you need art that
creates the feelings you want to emote.
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I'm no graphic designer,
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but I've been through enough branding
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script fonts or a no-go.
When it comes to small sizes,
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plain sands style fonts are
winners as they're much easier
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to read. Then you have colors.
Take blue, for example.
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Some blues might feel too corporate,
while others might feel too calm.
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So pay attention to
this stuff, it matters.
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My pro tip for today is keep
your artwork simple. Clean fonts,
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no more than a few colors that
compliment each other, and you are good.
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But just like editing audio
and podcast, post production,
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graphic design isn't
something you learn overnight.
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It's okay that you can't
do all of this stuff.
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If you're not an expert at graphic design,
people go to school for this stuff.
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Thankfully, a few of
those people work with us.
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So it widens the eyes of your
prospects rather than irritates them.
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If you are ready to
professionalize your podcast,
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we'll show you how it
works for a helping hand.
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We've got everything you need to help
you get your podcast on the right track.
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Come and say hi over@blueberrypro.com.
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Thanks, Toby, for that Blueberry
Pro tip. And of course,
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first impressions in artwork is
extremely important. So Mike,
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we've got a question
of the week. What's up?
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Somebody from Facebook says,
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I use Audio Technica at h m
50 headset for podcasting,
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but I need to buy three
more pairs for guests.
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I don't wanna spend 200 bucks each.
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So can you recommend a decent headphone
option that sounds natural and is easy
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to listen to for long
periods of time? Well,
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I don't have a bunch of
different headphones.
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I use an audio Technica headphone
when I'm not, uh, on camera.
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But I, I use a, uh, Sony MDR 75 0 6,
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uh, for, you know, just listening to
music and whatnot, and I really like it,
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so I'm sure it'd work well for
podcasting. They're about 80 bucks, uh,
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right now at b and h. Uh,
not a, uh, affiliate link,
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but I'll have a link to that
one in the, uh, show notes.
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But they're on sale right now for
like 20 bucks off. But, you know,
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headphones for guests, uh, I don't know,
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what do you dot I know you guys
use the, uh, ATR or the, uh,
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audio Technica boom
headset. Mike's out in cs.
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But yeah, so, you know,
I really think if it's a,
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if it's a permanent, someone that's
gonna be permanent on the show,
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they should have their own
headsets. Yeah. But, you know,
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I like in ear earbuds, but the
problem is I use Assure, and they,
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they're actually wired,
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but that's probably not something a
guest is gonna wanna put in their ear
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because, you know, they don't know if
they've been in another person's ear.
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So probably something over the
head if they're truly a guest,
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that's just gonna be on one time.
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And I don't think you have
to spend a lot of money,
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I think think under a hundred bucks.
Um, long as the host has, uh, you know,
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good sounding headsets, it
really doesn't matter. Yeah.
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As long as a guest can hear, you can,
you can go cheap. Um, I, I would,
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I would spend as a minimal
amount of money as possible,
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but one thing I would do
is buy ones, had a cuff,
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have a cuff that cover
the ear, so that way, uh,
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especially if they're in studio,
they're not going to get, um,
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any audio feedback coming from Yeah.
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Crosstalk or anything like.
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That. Yeah.
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So I would definitely have a cuffed
headset and go as cheap as you can.
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Probably that Sony 75 0 6 Mike,
that you recommends are on $80.
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I'm familiar with that headset. Probably
would be the one to buy. But again,
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I think you can go cheaper.
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Yeah. It might be overkill. Yeah.
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, yeah. You can
go cheaper with, uh,
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the main thing is the good
microphone. You know, if you,
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if you're gonna spend the money,
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spend the money on microphones and then
go cheap on headphones. Yeah. That's,
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that's the best way.
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As long as they can hear you and, you
know, they're not uncomfortable. I,
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I think Right. Pretty much anything.
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But anyway, if you got a question
you'd like us to answer a show,
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drop an email to mike blueberry.com,
audio, text or video, we may use it.
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You can also post a question on the
Blueberry Podcasting Facebook group,
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which we definitely want
you to participate in.
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Yeah. Get over there and,
uh, you know, let's, uh,
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let's stir up some
conversation. That'd be fun.
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Best place for support with any blueberry
product or service is our ticket
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system. Uh, that's over
at blueberry.com/support.
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Tickets give the whole team access
rather than direct emails or calls.
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And of course, you've been,
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we've been coming to you this week for
the new Media Production Studio Quarter
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Michigan and Mike Dell's World
Studio in Traverse City, Michigan,
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produced by the Blueberry Pro
production team@blueberrypro.com.
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You can fill out our listener survey
at surveys.blueberry.com/podcast
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Insider.
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You can always schedule a
one-on-one with us as well.
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Hosting customers only for
myself, it's todd@blueberry.com.
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And with me, it's mike@blueberry.com.
Makes sense, right.
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? Yep. And of course, if
you wanna get a care package,
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send us your podcast sticker and a self
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send you a Blueberry Care package.
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That address is within the
show notes@podcastinsider.com.
497
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So, Mike, did we cover everything today?
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I do believe so. And, uh, and now that
it's, uh, after the new year, we're,
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we're not having a slow
news a as it has been so.
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. Yeah. So things are kicking
up and moving along, which is good.
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And we got some changes coming to
the show here in the new future.
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I hope you're gonna like it. We'll talk
to you more about that later. But again,
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uh, you're gonna wrap this show up, uh,
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episode 3 28 for Podcast
Insider for January 12th, 2023.
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Thank you for being here. Thank
you for listening. Take care.
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We'll see you next time
here on the Podcast Insider.
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Yep. Catch you next week.
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Hey everyone. Welcome to Podcast Insider.
My name is Todd Cochran. Of course,
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I'm joined by Mike Cohost, Mr. Mike
Dell. Mike, how are you doing? Doing.
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Good. Welcome back. I trust you had
a good trip to, uh, Vegas for c e s.
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Yes, indeed. And of course,
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anyone that has to spend seven days in
Vegas voluntarily
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it's about four days too much. But,
uh, yeah, had a great, uh, great event,
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great show about, eh, I don't know,
about 30, 35 hours of live content. Uh,
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so we had a great time with the
tech podcast team out there. Yeah.
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Um, I've been out there a couple times
during ces and, uh, I don't envy the, uh,
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amount of time spent
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You know, the, uh, the main thing
is it's a lot different now. We,
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we basically are official press
and we have the ability to
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work from a,
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a location where we have a workroom
and then we have a studio on top and
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security and internet. Yes.
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And it just really
intercourse with gear now
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being a lot more condensed
and not having to, you know,
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roll 20 boxes in and you just roll in
with like three suitcases and in your
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good, um, little set
up, of course. But yeah,
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I think we had a very
successful live event.
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We streamed the audio and then of course,
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all that content's gonna be converted and,
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and used in our Reg Regular podcast
as an additional episode. So, uh,
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yeah, it was, it was a good event.
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Ah, very good. Good. So, uh, yeah,
we got our normal news today.
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We got a best practice,
got some blueberry stuff,
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and we have a blueberry pro tip
and a question of the week. So, uh,
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we have the normal lineup for now.
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All right. We kick off the news
here and, uh, we've got one thing,
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it's lead in the pack is
really some blueberry news.
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We launch Apple subscriptions.
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It's now integrated on the
blueberry platform. And, uh, it's,
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it's, uh,
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the ability for you to run premium
content and not have to go directly
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to Apple to publish all that. You go
through a very simple setup process,
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and then once you're done,
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you can post your premium content
from blueberry just like you do,
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uh, a regular episode, but, uh,
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you make it available as a
subscription on Apple Podcast.
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Yeah, I've been playing with a test
account and, uh, it, it is pretty slick.
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Uh, you know, you, you publish your
regular episodes as you would regularly,
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and if you have a subscription tied
to that same show, you could do the,
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uh, premium content all in the
same dashboard at Blueberry.
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Uh, now if you're using Power Press,
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you have to come to blueberry
to publish the Apple episodes,
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but it's a very similar process
and pretty slick and, uh,
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I'm glad we got it done on time.
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You know, that's one thing
we should reiterate is the,
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this is not just for dashboard customers.
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So if you are a Power Press user,
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you can publish your premium episodes,
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even if you're a Power Press
user on the Blueberry dashboard.
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The only difference is you still
continue to do your public episodes
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on your own website.
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We were not able really to
get disintegrated within
Power Press to make it
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completely cohesive.
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So the premium stuff does have to be
published from the Blueberry dashboard,
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and what happens is you'll get a key,
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and then when you get a key from
Apple and you enter that key,
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uh, in the setting
section, it unlocks, uh,
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features that would normally be locked
on the platform for you to be able to
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publish, uh,
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to Apple directly again for the
premium or for the subscription
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episodes only for those of you
that are Power Press users.
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Yep. And, uh, like I said, it works
really slick. We've, uh, been testing it,
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uh, guys at Apple been testing it and, uh,
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I think we had a few customers
testing it, so, yep. It's, uh,
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all up and running.
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So if you're interested in doing premium
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come check it out.
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You do have to be, uh, $20 and a month
above client to do that. Okay. True. Uh,
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but that's the majority of the
clients, otherwise prx, uh,
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they announced that they're
using value for value part of the
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podcasting 2.0 spec in a new way. And, uh,
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this is kinda curious on what
they, the route they decided to go.
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They kind of rolled their own, it
looks like, uh, uphold.com, I guess,
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is who they were working with.
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And it does micro payments
in Fiat currencies, uh,
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mostly US dollars at this
point, but it's, uh, you know,
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set up similarly, but it's only
on the web. There's no, uh,
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apps that are taking advantage of it.
So, you know, this is for a web player,
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but you can stream a penny a minute or
whatever while you're listening. Uh,
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they don't have any provisions for
boosting kinda, you know, like we do with,
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uh, the, uh, value for value
using Lightning. But yeah,
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it's a first step. I, I, I think
it's, uh, it's worthy of a,
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NPR X is a pretty big
outfit. So we'll see.
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The challenge that they're really
going to have with this
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and this again,
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is one of the reasons why we're
implementing the Podcasting 2.0
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Value for value model specifically,
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is if someone wants to send you a dollar,
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then you really get all these fiat
fees, you get these financial fees,
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and you may cost you 50
cents to send a dollar.
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But when I send the equivalent
of a dollar in the podcasting
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2.0 value for value model,
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which we're gonna be talking about a
lot in the near future for sure, is,
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is you're gonna get a dollar,
you're gonna get a dollar, and this,
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the sender pays the fee to
send that money to, but the,
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the fee might be a penny or two. Yeah.
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Versus it's definitely not what, you
know, like PayPal, what do they take.
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Uh, yeah. Fit 50 50 cents and
then a percentage, you know,
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so this is not, you know, this is
the challenge that you run into.
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Yes, you wanna monetize and make it
easy for people to send donations,
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but you don't want to eat that up
in fees. And I'm afraid what prx is,
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the way they're going is it's, again, it,
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it's not going to benefit the content
creator in a, in a big, you know,
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it's gonna hurt them from being
able to get micro payments.
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People are gonna have to send 10,
15, 20, or $25 at a single time,
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which is okay if you got
fans that will do that,
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but the value for value model,
uh, works a little bit different.
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So it's disappointing they didn't go
with the regular podcasting 2.08 that
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everyone else is adopting,
but so be it. Uh,
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they might come around a
different implementation
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They might come around and they're using
the name space, so that's, uh, yeah.
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You know, they're actually, that's.
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A good thing.
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They're actually using the value tag
included in the podcasting 2.0 tags.
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So that's a step, you know,
one right little bit at a time.
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Luva Burton is launching his first
kids podcast called Sound Detectives,
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star Trek actor and host of Reading
Rainbow on Public TV for years.
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So, uh, LaVar is the
Voice of Sound Detectives.
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Yeah. He's gonna be, uh,
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collaborating with Julia Smith
and Jonah Slovs,
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I'm sure I butchered that name. But, uh,
it, it's a show that's gonna, you know,
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it's four kids, but
it's gonna be kind of a,
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a drama sort of thing where
they're looking for sounds that are
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missing in the world, should be fun
for the kids. And, uh, lava's been,
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you know, doing Reading Rainbow,
of course, he was the, uh,
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actor in Roots way back in the
seventies, played Kuta Quinte. So,
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uh, he's pretty famous guy,
and, uh, good to see him, uh,
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getting into podcasting.
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Interestingly,
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found that Slack now produces a transcript
if you upload an audio file. Uh,
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we're not sure how usable it is yet,
but we discovered this last week,
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we don't mean your favorite podcast is
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whoever and have this form
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I get those all the time, and it's like,
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make sure it's a meaningful, you know,
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I haven't had a guest in 18 years. Right?
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the value for value, we'll be spending
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if you're in the Florida
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only pass where you can go
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yeah. That area, uh, you
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we have Expo passes available. Let us
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asked to be on a panel in, uh,
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in Vegas and March for Podcast
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pro programmatic advertising panel.
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moderated by, uh, Rocky over at
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Movement Very go. So we
have a pro tip, Mike.
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Yeah. We have one from Toby. Uh,
about first impressions in artwork.
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Hi there, it's Toby Goodman
here. First impressions.
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I grew up in a world without the internet.
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A world where when you met someone new
who didn't know anyone in your social or
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work life, first impressions
were made and received.
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The moment you met in person,
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some of you might remember
that as podcasters,
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we make impressions on people
we've never met all the time.
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But to the new potential
scrolling listener,
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it's not your podcast audio itself
that makes the very first impression.
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It's often your artwork.
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While some podcast players
display episode artwork,
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others will only display
the main album artwork.
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So using the first impression lens,
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let's focus in on that
album artwork. The truth is,
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for scrolling potential listeners,
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the combination of how strong your show
name is and how you present it visually
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can mean the difference between a few
or a few thousand listeners Per episode.
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This week,
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I was asked to review a piece of podcast
artwork of a client who's moving over
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to pro production and to the surprise of
this person who was very proud of what
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he had, I told him his beautiful
podcast album, artwork needed to go.
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Now I can agree it was a
great looking piece of art,
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but as podcast album art,
it was absolutely useless.
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While the script font writing looked
fantastic on my computer monitor,
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there was a major problem. The spelling
was fine, the show name was good,
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but once I looked at it in situ,
it was completely illegible.
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You see, in Sit, it's a thumbnail,
and that means it's thumbnail sized.
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So swirly writing just
looks like a s scribble.
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Even with my glasses on and my
eyes pressed up to my iPhone,
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there was no way me or anyone
else was gonna be able to read it.
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And that means few,
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or maybe no one in Pod listener land was
gonna bother clicking on it and become
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a listener. There were other mistakes too.
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Award-winning host was a prefix.
It took up too much space.
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And what award some of you may know,
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I spent the best part of 20
years touring as a musician,
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and probably over half of those
years in my home country of the uk.
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So I've had my fair share
of curry and fish and chips,
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and you know what?
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On the wall of every single one of
those places in this country, an award,
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presumably nine out of 10
bestowed upon these people by
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themselves. So who cares? This
is not headline information.
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They had me at Curry House.
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So here's what you need for your artwork.
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Show name and maybe host
name. Not always essential.
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That's it. Then you need art that
creates the feelings you want to emote.
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I'm no graphic designer,
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but I've been through enough branding
and rebranding meetings to know fancy
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script fonts or a no-go.
When it comes to small sizes,
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plain sands style fonts are
winners as they're much easier
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to read. Then you have colors.
Take blue, for example.
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Some blues might feel too corporate,
while others might feel too calm.
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So pay attention to
this stuff, it matters.
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My pro tip for today is keep
your artwork simple. Clean fonts,
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no more than a few colors that
compliment each other, and you are good.
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But just like editing audio
and podcast, post production,
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graphic design isn't
something you learn overnight.
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It's okay that you can't
do all of this stuff.
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If you're not an expert at graphic design,
people go to school for this stuff.
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Thankfully, a few of
those people work with us.
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So it widens the eyes of your
prospects rather than irritates them.
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If you are ready to
professionalize your podcast,
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we'll show you how it
works for a helping hand.
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We've got everything you need to help
you get your podcast on the right track.
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Come and say hi over@blueberrypro.com.
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Thanks, Toby, for that Blueberry
Pro tip. And of course,
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first impressions in artwork is
extremely important. So Mike,
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we've got a question
of the week. What's up?
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Somebody from Facebook says,
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I use Audio Technica at h m
50 headset for podcasting,
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but I need to buy three
more pairs for guests.
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I don't wanna spend 200 bucks each.
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So can you recommend a decent headphone
option that sounds natural and is easy
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to listen to for long
periods of time? Well,
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I don't have a bunch of
different headphones.
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I use an audio Technica headphone
when I'm not, uh, on camera.
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But I, I use a, uh, Sony MDR 75 0 6,
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uh, for, you know, just listening to
music and whatnot, and I really like it,
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so I'm sure it'd work well for
podcasting. They're about 80 bucks, uh,
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right now at b and h. Uh,
not a, uh, affiliate link,
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but I'll have a link to that
one in the, uh, show notes.
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00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,280
But they're on sale right now for
like 20 bucks off. But, you know,
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headphones for guests, uh, I don't know,
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00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,520
what do you dot I know you guys
use the, uh, ATR or the, uh,
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audio Technica boom
headset. Mike's out in cs.
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But yeah, so, you know,
I really think if it's a,
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if it's a permanent, someone that's
gonna be permanent on the show,
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they should have their own
headsets. Yeah. But, you know,
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I like in ear earbuds, but the
problem is I use Assure, and they,
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they're actually wired,
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00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:31,320
but that's probably not something a
guest is gonna wanna put in their ear
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because, you know, they don't know if
they've been in another person's ear.
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So probably something over the
head if they're truly a guest,
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that's just gonna be on one time.
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And I don't think you have
to spend a lot of money,
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I think think under a hundred bucks.
Um, long as the host has, uh, you know,
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good sounding headsets, it
really doesn't matter. Yeah.
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As long as a guest can hear, you can,
you can go cheap. Um, I, I would,
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I would spend as a minimal
amount of money as possible,
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but one thing I would do
is buy ones, had a cuff,
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have a cuff that cover
the ear, so that way, uh,
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especially if they're in studio,
they're not going to get, um,
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any audio feedback coming from Yeah.
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00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,440
Crosstalk or anything like.
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That. Yeah.
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So I would definitely have a cuffed
headset and go as cheap as you can.
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Probably that Sony 75 0 6 Mike,
that you recommends are on $80.
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I'm familiar with that headset. Probably
would be the one to buy. But again,
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I think you can go cheaper.
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00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,760
Yeah. It might be overkill. Yeah.
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00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,080
go cheaper with, uh,
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the main thing is the good
microphone. You know, if you,
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if you're gonna spend the money,
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spend the money on microphones and then
go cheap on headphones. Yeah. That's,
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00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,600
that's the best way.
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As long as they can hear you and, you
know, they're not uncomfortable. I,
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I think Right. Pretty much anything.
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00:27:44,380 --> 00:27:46,600
But anyway, if you got a question
you'd like us to answer a show,
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drop an email to mike blueberry.com,
audio, text or video, we may use it.
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00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,240
You can also post a question on the
Blueberry Podcasting Facebook group,
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which we definitely want
you to participate in.
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Yeah. Get over there and,
uh, you know, let's, uh,
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let's stir up some
conversation. That'd be fun.
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Best place for support with any blueberry
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system. Uh, that's over
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Tickets give the whole team access
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And of course, you've been,
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we've been coming to you this week for
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And with me, it's mike@blueberry.com.
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That address is within the
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So, Mike, did we cover everything today?
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I do believe so. And, uh, and now that
it's, uh, after the new year, we're,
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we're not having a slow
news a as it has been so.
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up and moving along, which is good.
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And we got some changes coming to
the show here in the new future.
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I hope you're gonna like it. We'll talk
to you more about that later. But again,
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uh, you're gonna wrap this show up, uh,
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episode 3 28 for Podcast
Insider for January 12th, 2023.
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Thank you for being here. Thank
you for listening. Take care.
506
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,920
We'll see you next time
here on the Podcast Insider.
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Yep. Catch you next week.